Casket Cover

I would side with Mr. Carlin on this one. Though embalming of autopsied does provide those individual injection points - it cuts down tremendously on the concept of vascular pressure that you can attain (and most of the time maintain to some degree) that seems to get good results. Howevah, I am not a real fan of this type of discussion on this type of board, so if you will allow me to back out quietly...
 
Bill, although it might take a little longer to embalm an autopsied body, I was always told a properly autopsied body results in a far better embalmed body. I won't get into specifics here, but I'm surprised you haven't seen this in your 20+ years.

Preservation is not the only purpose of embalming. Appearance of the deceased is also an important factor.

Now let's get back to more important things, ike the color of the car and its drip rails.
 
Molding?

Was I seeing things or did they replace the missing molding or switch to another gold Lincoln Hearse for the final trip to the cemetary yesterday? I got a pretty good shot of the right side of the police escorted hearse and it seemed to be there? They apparently have a good sized fleet of gold "company cars". MM
 
Was I seeing things or did they replace the missing molding or switch to another gold Lincoln Hearse for the final trip to the cemetary yesterday? I got a pretty good shot of the right side of the police escorted hearse and it seemed to be there? They apparently have a good sized fleet of gold "company cars". MM

I posted pictures from the funeral of the hearse on the other thread. It appears to me, based on the license plates, that it is the same coach used to bring her remains to the funeral home. Maybe the drip rail was never really missing, maybe it was fixed......we may never know!
 
I am sorry for hijacking this thread and taking it from the casket cover to the embalming aspect. I did it and I am sorry but there were some very good responses to it. As for the casket cover, it still looks as if it were a velour cot cover. I too use as "rain jacket" or clear cover when we are taking a casket outside in inclimate weather. The idea of using a cot cover instead of the clear plastic cover does lend a little more dignity (not SCI). I would assume the reason they used that was to prevent fingerprints or smears on the casket rather than advertise but that is a good idea to use and it would kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
 
I am sorry for hijacking this thread and taking it from the casket cover to the embalming aspect. I did it and I am sorry but there were some very good responses to it. As for the casket cover, it still looks as if it were a velour cot cover. I too use as "rain jacket" or clear cover when we are taking a casket outside in inclimate weather. The idea of using a cot cover instead of the clear plastic cover does lend a little more dignity (not SCI). I would assume the reason they used that was to prevent fingerprints or smears on the casket rather than advertise but that is a good idea to use and it would kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

As a non-funeral director, I tend to agree with the points Mike Weirauch made above and Robert-S initally in that I don't find it personally distasteful and actually more the other direction in dignity-professionalism in not removing the casket cover until it was safely inside the church. On advertising it can work both ways.... in our business, having your name on large crane is great until it accidently turns over and is on the nightly news! MM
 
Their intention to use that cover was just for advertising purposes only, no other reason. The weather was not bad there(My opinion). That was in poor taste. Funerals are to memorialize the deceased, not to advertise for more business.

This is an interesting statement. What's the difference between having the firm's name on a casket cover and nameplates on its hearse?

Every funeral director I know has nameplates on his hearse, a sign on (or in front of) his building, his firm's name on a cot cover, and the firm's name on service folders as well as register books.
 
The intent is "advertise" who is doing the service. While some funeral homes do advertise on the radio, t.v., billboards, etc., this serves as an effective way to get your name out into the public eye or keep it there. IMO, it is a proven means of advertising without reminding people on a daily basis that they will die.

In this case, the funeral home was probably using this service as a way to advertise on a national level. In which case I find it very disgraceful.
 
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National Advertising

The intent is "advertise" who is doing the service. While some funeral homes do advertise on the radio, t.v., billboards, etc., this serves as an effective way to get your name out into the public eye or keep it there. IMO, it is a proven means of advertising without reminding people on a daily basis that they will die.

In this case, the funeral home was probably using this service as a way to advertise on a national level. In which case I find it very disgraceful.

Pat: Somehow I doubt that their intent was to (nationally) advertise a single location (family owned) black funeral home that was founded in 1946 and stilll has at least one (licensed) Whigham Famly Member involved in the business according to their website, hoping to generate other clients from across the nation to have thieir home perform services just from having their name only on a cot cover.... and-or they had the cot cover specially made for this paticuliar service..... that doesn't just doesn't make sense to me. I would rather believe that they took (good) care of Whitney's Fathers ceremonies previously, are well connected in the community they serve and had the cover on their to purely to help protect the very expensive casket until it was inside the church out of harms way. MM
 
I thought that was a "Promethian" Batesville. I could be wrong. I buried my Mother in a Gold Promethian with red Velvet interior, it was beautiful.


Now boys, let's not bicker. Let's play nice.........
 
Pat: Somehow I doubt that their intent was to (nationally) advertise a single location (family owned) black funeral home that was founded in 1946....

Your right, maybe not to "advertise on a national level" but there is no doubt who the funeral home is. If it were me or you in that casket I can almost bet we wouldn't have gotten the cot cover. It probably would have been a standard "rain jacket".

To me from an advertising standpoint it seems to me this is why they covered it this way.
 
After looking at the website for the Funeral Home I would venture a guess that ANYONE who coughed up the amount of money that a Millenium or better casket costs would get the fancy cover to protect the shine & finish. They appear to be a well established firm with a lot of respect in their community.
 
What is the point of putting them down for doing anything that they did for this service and this family? Do you think they were supposed to try to hide who they were or what the name of the funeral home is? Do you think that any funeral home in this nation would have been able to keep everything under wraps in a situation like this?
Whenever a celebrity dies, the firm caring for their body is always mentioned. Frank E. Campbell in NYC is famous for doing celebrity funerals for over a hundred years.
And Mike, no need to apologise for asking about the preparation of the body. Most of the people on this forum either have been or are emplyees of a funeral home/mortuary so it is natural to be curious as to the details of such things.
Now as far as a review of the funeral itself, I think from what I watched on Youtube it would have been an experience to be able to attend, regardless of your opinions of Whitney or the cause of her demise. This was THE black church-related event of the decade. Everyone who was anyone in the american black higher up world was there, unless they couldn't make it or were not issued an invitation.
For Whigham Funeral Homes' part. I believe from everything I've seen that they did a great job with the hand that they were dealt. It looked like everything went off without a hitch, but no one would know that for sure but them. When owner Carolyn Whigham was interviewed by the media, she came across as polite but firm, not like somebody putting on airs. She said in the interview that they intended to handle everything with dignity, respect and professionalism; and I think they hit a home run. They also had a matched fleet, and that's always a winner.
I will say this though. If you have a black funeral home in your town, and they are upper class, chances are that they will handle funerals with more class than a white firm. Now keep in mind I'm only speaking for what I know and have seen personally. There is an even split of funeral homes in my town, 3 white 3 black. And one of the 3 black firms is the nicest and most professional of any of them. No other firm in town even has an all matched fleet like they do. They also have many white families that entrust their loved ones to them for their final arrangements.
We can all say what we would've done and how we would've handled it, but until you are there none of us can really say. We just need to be thankful that the funeral profession was once again portrayed in an extremely positive light, and the value and benefit of a funeral service was shown to it's fullest extent.
 
No one is putting them down here. I'm sure that every thing was wonderful. Matching fleet and all. But tell me this, do you think the cot cover would have been used on the same casket with no cameras or pomp and circumstance existing? Or would it have gotten a plain old rain cover?

I have worked for a "black" funeral home in Mississippi and yes they do it up but then again I have also worked in "white" funeral homes that did it too.

Once again, not putting them down or accusing them of exploiting the situation but to some this is how it comes across.:893USA-Smilie-thumb
 
And why does it make any difference either way other than to just stir debate?

And again, this was on a national stage, so if they wanted to take the opportunity to show that they were a professional firm that does things first class, then more power to them. They've worked hard for the recognition.
 
It doesn't matter if it is a black or white funeral home, it is the professionalism of the firm that shines through in these difficult times. In my opinion, the Whigham Funeral Home did an exemplary job in this difficult of circumstances. There are no retakes, no rehearsals, and if it were not for their long and outstanding years of service to the community, they just wouldn't have been able to pull it off as well as they did.
 
For the sake of debate: If the funeral home used that particular cover instead of a clear cover because of the cameras I find that in poor taste. Now if they used that cover during inclement weather for a Millenium or a Batesville Triton Gray then more props to them and thank you for your level of care.

But then again I look at the picture and there doesn't seem to be inclement weather to me. And if they are worried about protecting the casket, have you ever seen the underside of a cot cover? They are rough to the touch.

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