Bruce: I wouldn't argue for a minute the value of some of Mars creations. I've used my share of Mars lights over the years and couldn't agree more. What I said is that the RB series, or at least some of them, were low end. In the early '80s I latched on to a Mars light bar with twin SW2 beacons for a whopping $75! And I thought that was high then! What I'm regularly reminded about on another board when I comment about prices or values of lights, sirens, etc., is that it's all supply and demand; and to a small extent, I'll agree to that. But what I object to is seeing a piece of equipment selling for more than double what it sold for originally: and not necessarily in pristine condition. For example, a gentleman whom I consider a good friend advertises and sells a particular siren that never sold for more than $30 for close to $300...and gets it. That's what I meant above about "more money than brains", and I'll stick by that. If people here or on the other board don't like that.....too bad!