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Old 11-27-2018, 01:18 PM
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https://www.foxnews.com/auto/get-the...dels-next-year

Following Ford and Fiat Chryslerís lead, General Motors is reducing the number of sedan and hatchback models it offers in the United States in favor of a lineup made up largely of trucks and SUVs.

Several manufacturing plants in North America will be idled, and thousands of workers laid off by the end of 2019 as the company gears up to fill the void with new electric and autonomous vehicles.

Six models are set to be eliminated, leaving a handful of four-door cars in GMs showrooms. At least for now.....

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Old 11-27-2018, 03:02 PM
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Chevrolet Cruze, the Cadillac CT6 and the Buick LaCrosse, will be discontinued. A GM spokesperson also confirmedthat Chevy Volt production will be discontinued by March 2019.
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Old 11-27-2018, 03:49 PM
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Chevrolet Cruze, the Cadillac CT6 and the Buick LaCrosse, will be discontinued. A GM spokesperson also confirmedthat Chevy Volt production will be discontinued by March 2019.
The funny part of Volt going to the locker room is yesterday I heard 3 spokesmouths on the radio announcing with less money and resources spent on sedans nobody wants more would be spent on electric cars (self igniting?) and alternate fuel cars.

Sure, I believe that. I live near Rochester, I see the abandoned Delco plant and barely used Rochester Products plant, and I know 2 retired Engineers from the alternate fuel dreamworks (now closed) where GM developed the Hydrogen cars and military vehicles. Mrs Clinton came to get her picture taken in a Hydrogen Hummer and a fledgling Congress criminal rode a Hydrogen car to the Capitol from there. OK, so it took 6 Hydtogen cars, 5 Blazers and 5 trailers to accomplish the trip, no big deal, nobody at GM could be expected to know multiple vendors operate Hydrogen fill plants between here and there.
We won't mention how GM blew hell out of the back side of the Airport with the hydrogen fill station for the experimental fleet the County was testing.
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The XTS and the CT6 are going away. No more Cadillac passenger car-based hearses. Who would have foreseen the Big 3 totally exiting/abandoning the passenger car market in our lifetimes?
I guess that the steel tarriffs were "the last straw".
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Old 11-27-2018, 09:45 PM
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The XTS and the CT6 are going away. No more Cadillac passenger car-based hearses. Who would have foreseen the Big 3 totally exiting/abandoning the passenger car market in our lifetimes?
I guess that the steel tarriffs were "the last straw".
GM produced passenger vehicles that were simply not selling. That is, the public did not like them. Additionally, many current GM vehicles have been rated among the least reliable, including Cadillac models (JD Power, 2018). GM was given billions by the taxpayers as a loan to bail them out. In the 5 years after the bailout, GM earned more than $22.6 billion; the Taxpayers lost $10.6 billion in the bailout https://money.cnn.com/2014/05/29/new...out/index.html . GM survived the recession thanks to the U.S. Taxpayer, but they failed themselves and the United States by engineering unreliable, substandard vehicles that held little appeal to consumers.

GM's current circumstance has nothing to do with steel tariffs being imposed for the past 7-8 months. Relative to tariffs: The bottom line is that steel tariffs existed long before the current admin imposed them. Those tariffs were imposed on U.S. goods by our international trading partners. The current admin's aim was to eliminate tariffs completely so that trade would be FREE, FAIR, & RECIPROCAL. The current tariffs were imposed to create leverage with the aim to eliminate them all together. As soon as our trading partners engage in free, fair, reciprocal trade, without tariffs, the current admin will remove all tariffs imposed on foreign steel.
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.......... and how's that working out?
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what they are not saying at all is the fuel mandates just starting to come in effect have exceptions for trucks. the bigger wider taller the less they are subject to the rules. OH ya SUVs and Crossover are considered trucks for the mandate. so by cars if you want a car built in the USA you got to buy a Honda
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Default William Crapo Durrant is spinning in his grave!

He would not believe what these people have done to his company. Harlow Curtis and Alfred Sloan would be even more stunned. For the last 25 years every time I think the leadership of General Motors can’t do anything more stupid, they do something more stupid.
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GM has lost its way on making reliable products. I have a 2008 Suburban LTZ it has had more money spent on repairs than any other vehicle I have ever owned. I have owned repaired and paid to have repaired many GM vehicles over the years since my first one in 1954 (a 1041 Pontiac) I have bought new eight Cadillacs two Corvettes a GMC Syclone an 89 Turbo Trans AM, an 87 Buick Regal turbo powered these cars were all relitivley trouble free. I have bought sold and used many GM vehicles in the business. But since about 2001 GM has made crap. Compared to Ford the recent GM cop cars have been duds the Impala front wheel drive falls apart and every dept. we get them from are glad to see them gone. The Australian Caprice, quick but many problems most depts sacked them early due to high repair costs. Even my all time favorite the 94 to 96 LT-1 Caprice cop car was a victem of the GM downward reliabilty slide Bad water pump design the Opti spark and the damn 4L-60 transmission. The 4L-80 would have held up great but cheap GM did not want to change the floor stamping to accomidate the bigger transmission so instead they spent the money on warranty claims for the weaker 4L-60. Of the folks I have known for many years that were loyal GM owners. A number have gone to Ford,Toyota.Subaru,Lexus, MB,BMW,all say the same they don;t have the problems they did with their GM rides. I am going to get another Suburban used I ain't paying 70K for unreliable junk and nothing else on the market fills the bill for me like a Suburban. It hauls a lot of German Shepherds and they like the rear AC.
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I have owned many GM cars over the years snd was very happy with most of them. So, I am frustrated by their poor decisions. It started with their Plan 2000 in the early 90s, when they forced most mom and pop and many "in town" dealerships to close, or move to a highway. Then they kill Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saturn and Hummer. Now they are discontinuing so many popular models, it never seems to stop. And to make matters worse, they keep losing loyal employees and customers. Honestly, these people running GM and some other large companies are so bent on the bottom line, that they completely forget about what makes a company successful, happy clients and employees.

All I can say to GM execs is, keep doing what you're doing and you will make GM cease to exist. What a shame!
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