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Old 05-08-2018, 10:35 PM
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Looking good Clay, I really like your ambulance.
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Clay,

Forgive me for what may be a silly question- but the pictured/circled holes here are for a standard mounting bracket for the F-W Model 1 cot bar you have installed. You can see the outline remaining from where it used used to be. Was there some reason the brackets couldn't be used? I've attached the cot fasteners page from the 1963 F-W "Full Line" catalog for reference.

The black nylon pictured appears to be some form of "hasty litter," but I cannot say for sure. I would suspect more mortuary in nature than EMS - but could be either.
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Old 05-08-2018, 11:54 PM
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Clay,
The F-W Model 1 mounting brackets that Nick described are a common bracket and readily available. I probably have 8 pair of them, if you are unable to find them elsewhere. Were the home-made black brackets with the car when you got it?
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you would look correct with a set of slides on your rack. then of course all the nuts go in the inside to keep from hurting your self but defiantly moving in the right direction. if you cant find a s let of the flat bar mounts I should have a extra set here I can send you. but good job of engineering that rack to hold the bar.
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Clay,

Forgive me for what may be a silly question- but the pictured/circled holes here are for a standard mounting bracket for the F-W Model 1 cot bar you have installed. You can see the outline remaining from where it used used to be. Was there some reason the brackets couldn't be used? I've attached the cot fasteners page from the 1963 F-W "Full Line" catalog for reference.

The black nylon pictured appears to be some form of "hasty litter," but I cannot say for sure. I would suspect more mortuary in nature than EMS - but could be either.
Yes, I do believe that they had some sort of mechanism that bolted in those holes. Unfortunately, when I mounted it originally to the same holes, it was too low to grab the side of the strecher. I had to make the brackets because I had to go above the sidewalk of the car as it was too low as well. I will have to get shorter bolts but I think I'll keep the twist on nuts for easy removal. I see in the picture you included that there is a style of strecher bar that folds up. That would be ideal for me. Anyways, that was my method behind the madness.
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Unfortunately, when I mounted it originally to the same holes, it was too low to grab the side of the strecher. I had to make the brackets because I had to go above the sidewalk of the car as it was too low as well.
Is this to accommodate the #30 cot seen in earlier photos?

Based on the original mounting holes, your car likely had a #54-L or a #32 when in service.
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Yes, it's the same cot from previous photos. It came with the ambulance when I bought it.
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The Model 1 was the only option from F-W available at that time for side-mounting. The Model 2/3 are the same thing with either both floor-mounted hardware or one floor and one side-mounted. The distance between sets of holes isn't relevant - with small changes it's the same product for approx. 20 years. If the car were older - or perhaps someone used "leftovers," it's possible the Washington Mortuary equivalent could've been used - the bracket/bar are slightly different based on generation. A final and less common option is Baumgardner - which was still producing product up to at least 1964.

The low-headroom cots at that time were the Model 21L (single-level, "two-man"), Model 54L (two-level, "two-man"), Model 32 (Multi-level X-frame, "two-man") and Model 27 (Two-level, "One-Man"). Of course, folks didn't always follow the "book" and could've used the regular height cot equivalents despite having a low-headroom vehicle. I think for 1966 with side-mount hardware obviously having been present - the most likely would've been a Model 32.

Congrats on your purchase. As far as I am aware, you have the second Chrysler-branded ambulance from the time period that survives today.
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Yes, I do believe that they had some sort of mechanism that bolted in those holes. Unfortunately, when I mounted it originally to the same holes, it was too low to grab the side of the strecher. I had to make the brackets because I had to go above the sidewalk of the car as it was too low as well. I will have to get shorter bolts but I think I'll keep the twist on nuts for easy removal. I see in the picture you included that there is a style of strecher bar that folds up. That would be ideal for me. Anyways, that was my method behind the madness.
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Is this to accommodate the #30 cot seen in earlier photos?

Based on the original mounting holes, your car likely had a #54-L or a #32 when in service.
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Yes, it's the same cot from previous photos. It came with the ambulance when I bought it.
Clay - your Model 30 cot is 1980s/1990s vintage. It is likely something that was tossed in by one of the "Previous Owners." The Model 30 is too high for your headroom, but anything's possible. Station wagon type ambulances and combinations indeed had regular headroom cots at times.

As mentiond previously above, the Model 32 is very likely. I have one that is not being used, but hesitate to part with it at the moment. If you wish to make this authenti and cannot find one, please contact me and we can talk.
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I also might have one. I will have to have Nick ID my cots to be certain. Then I need to buy Dan Scully a plane ticket, so he can come East to help wrap it for shipment...
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Thanks guys. For now il use the brackets, but I may be interested in the correct strecher in the future. Also,I see Paul is looking for one too but, if anyone has a folding strecher bar, I'm interested. Just make sure Paul gets one first. Thanks.
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