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Old 01-10-2010, 06:40 AM
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Default Stroke - A Public Service Announcement

STROKE IDENTIFICATION:


During a BBQ, a woman stumbled and took a little fall - she assured everyone that she was fine (they offered to call paramedics). She said she had just tripped over a brick because of her new shoes.


They got her cleaned up and got her a new plate of food... While she appeared a bit shaken up, Jane went about enjoying herself the rest of the evening


Jane's husband called later telling everyone that his wife had been taken to the hospital - at 6:00 pm Jane passed away. She had suffered a stroke at the BBQ. Had they known how to identify the signs of a stroke, perhaps Jane would be with us today. Some don't die. They end up in a helpless, hopeless condition instead.


It only takes a minute to read this...


A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours he can totally reverse the effects of a stroke,totally. He said the trick was getting a stroke recognized, diagnosed, and then getting the patient medically cared for within 3 hours, which is tough.


RECOGNIZING A STROKE


Thank God for the sense to remember the '3' steps, STR. Read and Learn!


Sometimes symptoms of a stroke are difficult to identify. Unfortunately, the lack of awareness spells disaster. The stroke victim may suffer severe brain damage when people nearby fail to recognize the symptoms of a stroke.


Now doctors say a bystander can recognize a stroke by
asking three simple questions:


S *Ask the individual to SMILE.

T *Ask the person to TALK and SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE (Coherently).

(i.e. It is sunny out today.)

R *Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS.


If he or she has trouble with ANY ONE of these tasks, call emergency number immediately and describe the symptoms to the dispatcher.


New Sign of a Stroke - Stick out Your Tongue


NOTE: Another 'sign' of a stroke is this: Ask the person to 'stick' out his tongue... If the tongue is 'crooked', if it goes to one side or the other,that is also an indication of a stroke.

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Old 01-10-2010, 09:24 AM
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Thanks, Paul, for the reminder to all of us. It is serious business. I know.

At 47, exactly 4 years ago this week, I had a stroke. I was lucky, I have no obvious physical symptoms, but there are some psychological symptoms that linger even after months and months of therapy. For instance, multi-tasking is nearly impossible. I guess I now have a one-track mind! There are some other minor symptoms that most people (hopefully!) don't notice.

But I survived and, as I often say, "Better vertical than horizontal!"

So, S.T.R. and stick out your tongue.

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Old 01-10-2010, 10:10 AM
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Paul, you could well have saved a life by taking the time to post this today. Thank you for that! Lives are saved when ordinary people become aware and know how to recognize potential problems

When dealing with strokes, and their cousins, the heart attacks, the Number One Symptom is "DENIAL" (e.g. "I just tripped on a crack in my new shoes" or "I'm fine. It's just heart-burn").

If you suspect someone is having a stroke and they deny it, take a moment to push the point. Ask them to humour you by going through the simple S.T.R. tests, if only for "your own peace of mine". They might be thinking "Well, I'll do these stupid tests, but just to get Harry to stop pestering me". Their temporary annoyance with you will quickly turn to gratitude if it turns out that it IS a stroke.

Again, Paul....thanks!
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Old 01-10-2010, 10:12 AM
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Maybe 2 years ago now, I was asked to do those three things myself.

I had finished working the midnight shift at the mill and I was getting dressed to go home. I realized that my face didn't feel right. I looked in the mirror and realised that the one side of my face just didn't look correct. I went to the gentleman at the mill that is in charge of contacting the ambulance if needed and he had me do exactly what Paul just mentioned. I could not smile, I had trouble talking properly, but I still had the even movement on both sides of my body (lifting the arms). I would say that within 30 minutes of me noticing the first effect, I was in an ambulance headed to the hospital. I am currently 38 years old, so this happened when I was around 36, so age is not even a factor. If you have any of these symptoms or see anyone else with them, please get it checked out!

In my case, it was an ailment called Bells Palsy where a nerve in one side of the face is pinched and it brings on symptoms similar to a stroke. A couple of months for that nerve to regenerate and I was back to normal (normal for me anyway). I would consider myself lucky that it was not a stroke, but until I had the diagnosis, there was never a moment that I took it lightly. Most of us know the signs of a stroke and we need to keep them in mind. I did and always do!
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Old 01-10-2010, 10:18 AM
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Paul, A huge thanks for this message to everyone. Like Dennis, I had two this past year & I was blessed with the paramedics who responded (they had just done a fire inspection on my business one week before & remembered me. They also stopped by the office a week later to check on me). They got me to the ER quickly after the first one and got treatment. Finally found out the strokes were not caused by any of the "usual" causes (diet, BP, strress, etc.) but rather chemical exposure many years ago. I'm under long term treatment but getting better. Long story short, I tried to brush them off, that is, until they found me uncouncious in my office. So EVEYONE!! needs to heed your message, male & female, young and "more experienced" alike. Ya just never know!!

Sad part is that I've been in medicine for over 40 yrs and should have know better. But then we make the worst patients. That plus I have a 20+ yr old mind trapped in a 60+ yr old body

The part that gets me is that I just can't work on the cars like I want to. That part sucks. So listen up everyone.

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Thanks Paul! Great information and I am certain it will save many lives!
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When Dad had his stroke in late-2000, it was similar to the first part of the story. He came in from raking leaves and told me, "I'm woozy and my feet feel heavy." He could still smile, hold his arms up, and speak clearly. But I checked his blood pressure, which was very high.

By the time he was in the ambulance (+10 minutes), he couldn't remember a phone number (and he was always a numbers-guy). By the time he was at the ER (+30 minutes), he could no longer hold his right arm up, speaking coherently was difficult, and he couldn't even understand to try to smile. Quick treatment at the ER (+40 minutes) brought his BP down and stemmed the bleeding in his brain. After a helicopter ride to a specialty hospital (+2.5 hours), he could not speak or remember anything and was barely conscious. The next day (+24 hours), he still couldn't speak or recognize anything. The second day (+48 hours), I walked into his room in the morning and he said, "Good morning, Steve." And he recovered from there.

And the first symptom was that he was woozy and his feet felt heavy. Thank goodness for rapid recognition (it pays to have your own paramedic around) and rapid care by our little county ER. Had he been home alone, he probably would have gone in to lay down, and never woken up.

So the public service announcement is always welcome.
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When Dad had his stroke in late-2000, it was similar to the first part of the story. He came in from raking leaves and told me, "I'm woozy and my feet feel heavy." He could still smile, hold his arms up, and speak clearly. But I checked his blood pressure, which was very high.

By the time he was in the ambulance (+10 minutes), he couldn't remember a phone number (and he was always a numbers-guy). By the time he was at the ER (+30 minutes), he could no longer hold his right arm up, speaking coherently was difficult, and he couldn't even understand to try to smile. Quick treatment at the ER (+40 minutes) brought his BP down and stemmed the bleeding in his brain. After a helicopter ride to a specialty hospital (+2.5 hours), he could not speak or remember anything and was barely conscious. The next day (+24 hours), he still couldn't speak or recognize anything. The second day (+48 hours), I walked into his room in the morning and he said, "Good morning, Steve." And he recovered from there.

And the first symptom was that he was woozy and his feet felt heavy. Thank goodness for rapid recognition (it pays to have your own paramedic around) and rapid care by our little county ER. Had he been home alone, he probably would have gone in to lay down, and never woken up.

So the public service announcement is always welcome.
Good thing he had a son like you around.
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I was reminded of this post today, when I read it on Facebook. Thought that it was time to give this post another round for all the "new" people since 2010. Hard to believe that I posted this 7 years ago, and still remembered it.
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Thankfully my wife read a post like this somewhere at some point. June 25 she was able to put it into practice. Had I not landed in the emergency room at the point I did I likely wouldn't be here now.
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