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Old 09-21-2013, 07:11 PM
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Default 1977 S&S - What did I buy??

So my car collector friend calls me about a 1970s hearse for sale in his neighborhood, about 100 miles from me. That's all he knows and he asks if I want it, so I tell him I'll try to come up and see it first. He calls me the next day and says "hey I bought you that car, come and get it!"

Not knowing anything about what to expect I drive up and find this:



I've figured out she is a 1977 S&S model 77450 but that's it. It's embarassing how little I know about her, so I was hoping y'all could fill me in a bit?

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Old 09-21-2013, 09:31 PM
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Can you say RAT? Unfortunately, in my opinion anyway, these hearses don't seem to be worth very much. The cost of restoration would far exceed it's true value and you can probably find a nice one for a few grand. I wish I could say something positive, after all, it is still an antique car, but I just can't think of anything.
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Old 09-21-2013, 09:42 PM
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any interior shots? How well does it drive?
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get that tint off the back glass a set of bars and decent wheels on it maybe add a pin stripe and you got your self a hearse. if you paid 500 for it, it's a good deal. you can drive it home and only got a grand in it, it's a OK deal.
but now then if you paid 5000 for it lets take a walk out in the parking lot and have one of those heart to heart talks about those good buddy deals we have gotten into.
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Old 09-22-2013, 12:22 AM
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Welcome to the club. I also owen a 1977 but mine is a M-M landau endloader.
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Old 09-22-2013, 01:27 AM
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Not bad not bad, other than the wheels. The 77-79 cars may hardly be worth anything but I for one am partial to that generation. Just something about them, not quite sure what it is.
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Old 09-22-2013, 01:27 AM
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I do agree with Ed a little on this one!

It is a fine looking coach, but... For most of us looking for original coaches, it needs a little work. Loose the dark tint on the back windows and give it a proper landau (Ed mentioned both) and you are set.

It also hinges quite a bit on what you are looking to purchase/drive!

Do you want an all original hearse or are you looking for a hearse with (maybe) slight customs?

Personally, (just my opinion) either option would look good... Just depends on how you go about it.
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Something else that has been brought up... A couple of people have mentioned that hearses of those years aren't worth much...

I have NEVER purchased a coach on how much it is worth (in the general public)! What is it worth to YOU? In my opinion, if you are buying a coach for what "it is worth", you are buying a coach for the wrong reason! Decide on a year that you like and decide on a coach manufacturer(s) that you like and go from there. What you want and what it is worth are two totally different subjects to consider!

I also see that you say that your friend "bought it for you".
That is definitely a situation that I have NEVER been in!
Hope you enjoy your new coach!


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Old 09-22-2013, 02:26 AM
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This reminds me of the "modern" service car conversion our own Bill Wright performed on a similar coach something like ten years ago. I personally thought Bill's modern service car was a well done vehicle, and with the landau bars missing and the vinyl top already gone, the exterior modifications for a service car conversion appear to have already been done for you.
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Well I do appreciate all the opinions and advice! She won't be part of my permanent fleet, and as per advice I will try to keep my budget restrained. Still, I would like her to leave in better shape that I got her in - I have some '75 steelies/hubcaps I can put on her and I love the idea of adding landaus.

And to clarify, I'll be paying my friend back whenever I sell it. Not free, but no $$$ out of pocket is pretty good!

The car actually runs quite well. She did the 100 mile journey no problem, though she could use a bit of tuning. Smooth cruising at speed, rides well, brakes are sharp, overall very sound. The interior however...


Body by S&S, and interior by Home Depot!


The house carpet and radio in a plywood block are troubling, not to mention the steering wheel and skull....
I'm guessing it would have had a flat table in back originally? Also, did any of these have curtains? Thanks again
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