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Old 01-04-2013, 10:42 AM
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Default Barn-fresh Cadillac V-16 ambulance heads to auction

Will appear at Bonhams’s upcoming Scottsdale auction.
The Bonhams description offers little about the ambulance’s origins, other than noting that Fleetwood originally bodied it as a 4375S four-door sedan, the most common of Cadillac V-16 bodystyles, with no center divider between driver and passenger compartments. Cadillac built 501 such cars and another 438 in a similar bodystyle with a center divider. Sometime after 1935, when Cadillac began to offer commercial chassis, an enterprising and apparently unknown coachbuilder rebodied this Cadillac V-16, chassis number 700731, into an ambulance, updating its appearance with a 1935 Cadillac grille, hood and fenders, and 1935 Cadillac wheels and wheelcovers. Bonhams has set an estimate of $65,000 to $85,000 on the ambulance ahead of its Scottsdale sale, which will take place January 17 at the Westin Kierland Resort & Spa.

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Old 01-04-2013, 11:04 AM
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Mr Langlois is out that way,would tell him about it but his lovely Mrs has told him no more toys,and she told us at our fall meet,if you see something you like come see her,because Len won't sell em but she wouldld.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:15 AM
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Mr Langlois is out that way,would tell him about it but his lovely Mrs has told him no more toys,and she told us at our fall meet,if you see something you like come see her,because Len won't sell em but she wouldld.
four years ago my wife sold my 70 dodge demon 340 4 speed original car while i was hunting for a week. came home and she said i have a suprise for you! i sold that old dodge you boght for 3k! you paid 2100 and we made a nice profit! showed her one at mecum that was a barn find and it sold for 12500 not running! im mad again just thinking about it. she will never do it again i assure you. yried to get it back but what can you do. buyer just laughed at me and my brother had to grab me and drag me away. slept in the motorhome till i finally just excepted it.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:39 AM
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Forwarded this on to Tom McP., which I think a few of you also did, and got a little insight to the coachbuilder. He confirmed it's a late '20's Meteor body. Now I wonder how we can get some service history for this beautiful thing...
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Tom McPherson tells us that this is obviously a late Twenties Meteor body. It is the same body that they used exclusively for application to the Cadillac ambulances and hearses they were building for Cadillac themselves - the vehicles that were retailed through Cadillac dealers from the mid-to the late Twenties. Walt McCall says that a 1935 Cadillac grille has been grafted onto a Model 452 sedan chassis. The grille and hood are not 1935 V-16 issue, nor are the front fenders. The hood louver doors were last used in 1932. He speculates that this may originally have been a hearse. There you have it. The experts have weighed in.
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OK I know most of you drool at the though of such things fetching these prices but lets get realistic here. restored maybe but un restored. then to top if off the man can't even read the tag. Meteors were well marked. then of all things they sell it as a Cadillac, not what it is. but of course if you advertised a Meteor ambulance(invalid car) who would pay any attention to it. if it fetches the money I would bet it gets turned back into a caddy. after all that's were the money would be. but you guys watch and let me know.
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four years ago my wife sold my 70 dodge demon 340 4 speed original car while i was hunting for a week. came home and she said i have a suprise for you! i sold that old dodge you boght for 3k! you paid 2100 and we made a nice profit! showed her one at mecum that was a barn find and it sold for 12500 not running! im mad again just thinking about it. she will never do it again i assure you. yried to get it back but what can you do. buyer just laughed at me and my brother had to grab me and drag me away. slept in the motorhome till i finally just excepted it.
You are more forgiving than me. I know I would no longer be married to her, plus she would be charged with theft and selling stolen goods. If it was in both names it might not work, but I would never put my car on a joint title.
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With all due respect to Mr. McPherson's vast knowledge and expertise on these cars, this does not appear to be a Meteor body... This car still retains the standard length Series 452 Sedan rear doors and standard length chassis and wheelbase. The only extension in the body is in the section behind the rear doors.
My guess is this car was likely built in the mid-'30s by an independent shop, modifying a used 1930 V-16 Sedan.. The grille shell and headlights are standard '35 Cadillac and the fenders appear to be modified '33 items, or possibly the original 1930 fenders modified for a updated appearance. The hood, bumpers, running boards and valances appear original to the 1930 452 Sedan body this car began it's life as.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:42 PM
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With all due respect to Mr. McPherson's vast knowledge and expertise on these cars, this does not appear to be a Meteor body... This car still retains the standard length Series 452 Sedan rear doors and standard length chassis and wheelbase. The only extension in the body is in the section behind the rear doors.
My guess is this car was likely built in the mid-'30s by an independent shop, modifying a used 1930 V-16 Sedan.. The grille shell and headlights are standard '35 Cadillac and the fenders appear to be modified '33 items, or possibly the original 1930 fenders modified for a updated appearance. The hood, bumpers, running boards and valances appear original to the 1930 452 Sedan body this car began it's life as.
In that era, I think it was fairly common to "update" specialty cars.... look at how many times the White House's '39 Lincoln "Sunshine Special" was revamped before the "Cosmo's" came on the scene in the early 50's
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OK I know most of you drool at the though of such things fetching these prices but lets get realistic here. restored maybe but un restored. then to top if off the man can't even read the tag. Meteors were will marked. then of all things they sell it as a Cadillac, not what it is. but of course if you advertised a Meteor ambulance(invalid car) who would pay any attention to it. if it fetches the money I would bet it gets turned back into a caddy. after all that's were the money would be. but you guys watch and let me know.
I was actually thinking that this ambulance will fetch around $20K. I agree that it may be worth more, but it just seems to me that a professional car needing a restoration will not have people fighting to pour money in to it. Having said that, if one of our famous PCS restoration gurus got hold of it, well then in would really be special.
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