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Old 02-21-2016, 05:16 PM
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Where in this picture do you see a full body mud flap?

This picture also proves that the wheel covers that are on the car now, are the originals to the car.
They are indeed the same ones. I think on eBay I saw them as Enforcer hubcaps.

When I first saw the flat object at the rear of the car in the "group shot" photo - I wondered if maybe the rear step was folded down. Jack says they would never have done that and the factory photo doesn't seem to show the means for that.
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Old 02-21-2016, 05:23 PM
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The rear bumper is not the original, so there are no holes in the bumper for the step to hang on.
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Old 02-21-2016, 05:24 PM
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Those wheel covers must have been used on something else that Chrysler built, but I have no idea as to what. When the Ghia Imperial limousines came out in '57 & '58, Chrysler put 15" wheels on those while all stock Imperial passenger cars came with 14" wheels. Most squad cars ordered with 15" wheels would have had dog dish hub caps. Chrysler used 14" wheels on nearly everything they built from 1957 thru 1968, with the exception of the Imperials.

Do you remember what the eBay sellers identified them as?
This is from the 63-64 Parts book looks like 300, 880 Wagon and Newport could get the 15 '' wheels and as mentioned the cop cars.
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The wheel covers are very similar to a Imperial wheel cover, except that the Imperial wheel cover has an additional medallion in the center.
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Old 02-22-2016, 09:00 AM
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The rear bumper is not the original, so there are no holes in the bumper for the step to hang on.
Indeed, you replaced it with a very pretty Newport bumper!

At some point in the car's service life, the rear step was removed. However, there appear to be four holes (two each side) underneath the bumper where the 1/4" treadplate should mount. The original bumper (thanks for sending!) used the two holes for the usual New Yorker ornaments as attachment points for two strips of metal that supported the most posterior aspect of the step. It's a bit blurry in the scan posted above, but very clear in the original copy of the factory photo I have.

I'm not sure how sturdy the step would be with that design. Or - like the beacon - someone just backed it into something.
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This is a photo of a correct '63 Chrysler station wagon rear bumper. I know that they did not use a wagon when they built your rig. It is odd that they did not at least use the wagon rear bumper when they built this rig. This '63 wagon is a 6 pass. The 9 pass. wagon has a rubber step on each end of the bumper.
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Old 02-22-2016, 10:42 AM
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they were buying cars from locale dealers to convert. the few Caddies they did were ordered one piece at a time from a locale dealer as Pinter was not on GM approved list to sell incompleat cars to.

not sure if Jack or Tom could remember the circumstances around acquiring the base car. but it was most likely one off the lot. the heavy duty equipment could be ordered on any car at that time and around here at least it was not all that out of the norm to find it on a 4 door sedan. one of the strangest set ups I have seen was a 4 door 59 biscayne with a 348 tri power and a 3 speed stick.
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This is a photo of a correct '63 Chrysler station wagon rear bumper. I know that they did not use a wagon when they built your rig. It is odd that they did not at least use the wagon rear bumper when they built this rig. This '63 wagon is a 6 pass. The 9 pass. wagon has a rubber step on each end of the bumper.
The center section on 60-64 full size wagons Chrysler ,Dodge, Plymouth are all the same .The out board pieces are different depending on the car. All the bumpers have the hole for the step. If it did not have the step a carriage bolt was in place of the step plate.
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Understood. The bumper bolt is within the rubber step, when so equipped. Just odd that they did not use a wagon bumper at all on this unit. It would have been much more user friendly when entering and exiting this rig.
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they were buying cars from locale dealers to convert. the few Caddies they did were ordered one piece at a time from a locale dealer as Pinter was not on GM approved list to sell incompleat cars to.

not sure if Jack or Tom could remember the circumstances around acquiring the base car. but it was most likely one off the lot. the heavy duty equipment could be ordered on any car at that time and around here at least it was not all that out of the norm to find it on a 4 door sedan. one of the strangest set ups I have seen was a 4 door 59 biscayne with a 348 tri power and a 3 speed stick.
I assure you that they wouldn't have found 15" rims on any Chrysler sedan that was purchased "off the lot of a dealer" in 1963.
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