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Old 06-06-2017, 11:07 AM
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Dump those cable ends that is your problem. They will distort after a short time and cause the cable to be loose. They are also a source of crosion in to the cables. If you can't get any one to put the right ends on down there send them up here I will do it for you.
Just might take you up on that Ed, thanks.
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:46 PM
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You have 2 problems.

FIRST, scrap the crap battery terminals.
If you can't or don't want to use crimp on terminals for some reason, use these compression terminals. They are 99% as good as a properly crimped terminal.
https://www.delcity.net/store/Compre...inals/p_819607

I'd still like to see the result of a test employing QUALITY jumper cables from Battery - to the engine block itself, and I don't mean the paint on the block. That would bypass any corrosion resistance in the framee ground path.

When you make them up, employ some grease both to eliminate galling as the connection is made up, and to provide an anticorrosive agent. If you know a Cable TV installer con him out of a tube of the silicone grease they use.

Secondly, you may also have a bad intercel jumper on one of the batterys.
The quick & dirty test for that is a 5 minute charge to the battery at less than 5 amps. That will restore the connection and the battery will deliver full available power.

You may also have a low amperage parasitic draw causing the problem.
Is there any connection bypassing the battery switch suck as a clock or GE Phoenix radio?

Trickle chargers are a mixed blessing.
The ones called battery tenders employ voltage sensing that disconnects power to the charger at just below peak point of charge and turns power back onto the charger around 12 volts.
Fortunately that PC Board is available from China for about 5 bucks, and it is simple to build into almost any charger, including onboard chargers.

I continue to disbelieve this is a timing chain issue.
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Old 06-10-2017, 10:20 PM
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final got the hood of the 67 cleared off enough to open it. this is what you should see for battery ends. the positive end is a bit bigger the then negative one both are soldered onto the #4 gables. i did not have a piece of shrink wrap big enough when I did these or the connection would have that around it.
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:19 PM
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Pictures of my two battery's and hook-ups. Probably need to replace the cables. I went out to start her today after a few weeks of sitting and she cranked slow but started right up. What is really fantastic is the WORKING A/C system which confuses me. Not used to that.
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Quick ......... call your insurance carrier, and increase your fire insurance!! Who did the electrical hook ups on your car??? Joe the plumber???
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High school shop class with a substitute teacher.

Every one grabbed the easy tap. But each wire they snuck under the strap made the cables that much looser.

Grab the cable and give it a tug, bet it will pull right out the end. But my big question would be why so many things wired hot all the time. The cable out to the mechanical siren and possible one for the clock makes sense but every thing else should shut off with the Cole hearse switch. Bring it up we can spend a week or so and straighten it out for you.

The batteries are backwards all the others I have seen the negative post it on the outside and the cable goes right down to the frame about a 1 foot cable
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Actually everything does work off the switch. Nothing operates until the switch is turned on. Not sure about all those other hook ups. I know battery #2 has a double ground on it.
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You have two wires coming off the POS terminal of one of the. One with a inline fuse. Those wires are hot all the time to what ever t.hay are going to. One I suspect is your new ac set up.i would guess the one with the inline fuse.

Now this is more the norm under a lot of hoods. The hardest part of any restoration is redoing all the quick fixes done over the years. My offer still stands bring the bike up with it go play and I'll clean it up for you.
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This is a laugh 1/2 hour ago my car hauler climbed into his diesel ford dually turned the key and click! Muttering he climbed out cleaned the battery terminals. Jumped in turned the key and CLICK no start. At this point he began screaming the F---ing starter just went. I took a look at the cable ends (done by same guy who did Richards Cadillac). Went got my battery terminal cleaning kit, took the junk miserable gypsy terminal end on the positive apart cable out cleaned it good and presto we had start.The set up on the Cadillac is one of the worst I have seen. I am with Paul BUY FIRE INSURANCE!!!
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But guys, nothing works period until the battery switch is turned on. I tried it by turning on everything in the car from lights to sirens and including the new A/C system. All dead until I turn the battery switch on. The headlights are the only lights that work with the key off. I have to turn batteries on as well as the ignition key to get anything else to work. I guess I'll take some time and follow (then mark) what the additional cables and hook-ups are and where they're going. Still last evening cranked slow initially for a revolution then faster for two revolutions then cranks right up. I may pull starter and have it checked. So I take it my two 850 cold cranking amp batteries are strong enough then.

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