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Old 12-01-2013, 08:48 PM
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Default Hightop vs Highboy

Im just asking for clarification on the description or difference between the two terms. This is what I was once told that differentiates the two but Id like others opinions just for clarification.

A high-boy is a curved bubble roof line that starts at the front windshield and bubbles up all the way to the back end of the vehicle in one solid curved arch. This is seen on the Eureka High-Boy or the old guardians

A high-top is basically a raised fiberglass box that is placed over a cutout which creates a high-top. As seen on a Superior High-Top


Is this an accurate description? Any addition comments are welcomed

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Old 12-01-2013, 09:03 PM
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"High Boy" was a Eureka model name. A "hightop" is any ambulance with a raised roof. Each manufacturer had its own name for its hightop ambulances -the S&S Professional High Body and later Medic Mk. 1; Superior Rescuer and Super Rescuer; Miller First aider, M/M First-Aider, etc. Hope this helps. - Walt
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Old 12-01-2013, 09:12 PM
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"High Boy" was a Eureka model name. A "hightop" is any ambulance with a raised roof. Each manufacturer had its own name for its hightop ambulances -the S&S Professional High Body and later Medic Mk. 1; Superior Rescuer and Super Rescuer; Miller First aider, M/M First-Aider, etc. Hope this helps. - Walt
Thank you for the response

I can understand the High-Boy was a model name used by Eureka and I can understand what you refer to as ANY ambulance that had a raised roof is classified as a hightop however I guess it comes down to the type of raised roof that my question is directed at.

What or how would you classify or define the different types of Hightops? or do you? For example as I mentioned in my earlier post.
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:14 PM
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I don't believe that the way that the top is formed, will make a difference in terms. A high top, is generally referring to a vehicle that has a raised roof. We struggled with this question on our judging forum for over a year, and I believe that the final consensus was that if the interior hight was greater than 42" with the raised roof, then it was a high top. If the inside dimension was less than 42", and the roof had been raised, such as in a station wagon ambulance, it was still considered a low top. I don't believe that there ever was an industry standard.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:07 AM
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What or how would you classify or define the different types of Hightops? or do you? For example as I mentioned in my earlier post.
No need to further question Walt McCall's thorough and definitive answer just because it was not the response you were looking for.
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"High Boy" was a Eureka model name. A "hightop" is any ambulance with a raised roof. Each manufacturer had its own name for its hightop ambulances -the S&S Professional High Body and later Medic Mk. 1; Superior Rescuer and Super Rescuer; Miller First aider, M/M First-Aider, etc. Hope this helps. - Walt
In Western NY we referred to ambulances as highboy or low boy,even though manufacturers,as Walt pointed out,had their own designations. It's just like referring to ambulances as "rigs" or "Cars". A newer term "bus"(which I personally hate), has also come into use.

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Default Hi Boy Hi Top

Ambulance men from the 50's and 60's have used the term in my neck of the woods as Hi Boy! Then in the 70's Hi Top was popular term since most of the 50-60 guys retired or changed careers, so that term was not heard of as much, so Hi Top was adapted for the description.
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Walt said it perfectly. All Hi-Boys are hightops, but not all high tops are Hi-Boys. Just like all Jacuzzis are hot tubs, but not all hot tubs are Jacuzzis, its the brand name. It was a good question though.
By the way to the one who mentioned the term Bus for ambulance, I hate it too, and this made me wonder, how did that name come into use?
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Walt said it perfectly. All Hi-Boys are hightops, but not all high tops are Hi-Boys. Just like all Jacuzzis are hot tubs, but not all hot tubs are Jacuzzis, its the brand name. It was a good question though.
By the way to the one who mentioned the term Bus for ambulance, I hate it too, and this made me wonder, how did that name come into use?
I believe that it came into use in the big cities where the large type I & III units are in use. I don't know how any one could mistake an ambulance for a bus, but obviously some people do. I only remember this term being used in the last 10 years or so.
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I believe that it came into use in the big cities where the large type I & III units are in use. I don't know how any one could mistake an ambulance for a bus, but obviously some people do. I only remember this term being used in the last 10 years or so.
Denny,
I remember the term being used in the 70's also.....
When I was driving we had a LOT of folks that called us the "bus" since they were regular "riders" not patients mind you....heck one of my employers instructed us to go down to the local park and pick up a few "winos" (apologies to the younger members) but this is what the homeless and others were referred to back then.Anyways we would head downtown to one of the many parks and ask if anyone wanted a meal and comfort for awhile,of course we usually got 4-5 people,SAT them up on the gurney and even put one or 2 in the front seat and headed to the county hospital (now UC Davis Med)....on the way there most all of them knew the routine and would whip out their Medi-Cal card and a POE sticker from their welfare card.
We then dropped them off in the ER,usually they walked in on their own power and they would wave good-by to us and thank us for the BUS ride !!
The company collected $8.00 for every "patient" we brought in....
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