Friends of the Professional Car Society - Official Website of the Professional Car Society, Inc.Friends of the Professional Car Society - Official Website of the Professional Car Society, Inc.



Go Back   Friends of the Professional Car Society - Official Website of the Professional Car Society, Inc. > Classifieds Forum Open to the Public > For Sale - Professional Car and related items from other websites

For Sale - Professional Car and related items from other websites Informational posting of Professional Car and related items found on the Internet. Posts may be removed after 30 days or at our discretion.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #51  
Old 06-23-2017, 08:29 PM
John ED Renstrom's Avatar
John ED Renstrom John ED Renstrom is online now
PCS Elected Director 2016 - 2018
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Hot Springs SD 57747
Posts: 11,027
Thanks: 3,893
Thanked 14,261 Times in 6,014 Posts
Groans: 2
Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default

Never seen the inside of one or any pictures of inside. But most likely the divider cabinet would be standard MM for that year. The floor is a easy fix it some one would give it a bath and stack the parts laying in back do you could see what there is there.. it might be a good 500 dollar car. If it was running and moving under it's own power it would be worth a grand more. . I would be more concerned of mechanical problems sitting in one spot. For this long. You can bet on a number of things that just rotted away , seaze up and are in need of major overhaul. Or it will fire right up and run like a top. The worse case would be it goes cheap and some one drags it home to sit under the trees for years to come.
__________________
drop in for coffee anytime
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 06-23-2017, 10:24 PM
Kurt Arends's Avatar
Kurt Arends Kurt Arends is offline
PCS Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Council Bluffs IA 51503
Posts: 1,838
Thanks: 5,460
Thanked 5,083 Times in 2,360 Posts
Groans: 7
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

I am guessing that it will sell in the $5000 range, given its rarity. I don't think we will have to worry about it being parked under a tree to rot away. As I recall, the cabinet is unique to the Guardian. As with most Vanderbrink auctions, everything is sold As-Is, Where-Is and no attempt is made to get anything started or running.

We will find out in a 3 weeks!

Last edited by Kurt Arends; 06-23-2017 at 10:34 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 06-23-2017, 11:47 PM
Nicholas Studer Nicholas Studer is offline
PCS Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: San Antonio TX 72812
Posts: 357
Thanks: 256
Thanked 879 Times in 224 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurt Arends View Post
As I recall, the cabinet is unique to the Guardian
You are correct Kurt - it is displayed in the above ad I posted.
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 06-24-2017, 01:43 PM
Russell Street Russell Street is offline
Website Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Bellevue OH 44811
Posts: 815
Thanks: 3,106
Thanked 2,411 Times in 760 Posts
Groans: 1
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurt Arends View Post
I am guessing that it will sell in the $5000 range, given its rarity. I don't think we will have to worry about it being parked under a tree to rot away. As I recall, the cabinet is unique to the Guardian. As with most Vanderbrink auctions, everything is sold As-Is, Where-Is and no attempt is made to get anything started or running.

We will find out in a 3 weeks!
For some reason I've always thought it would go for somewhere around $10,000 just because it's so rare. Then I've figured it would take another $25-30,000 to put, it, in pristine, condition. When all is said and done it would still be a very nice $12-15,000 car. Just my humble opinion.

As you said 3 weeks will give us our answer.
__________________
Proud student of the Limbaugh Institute For Advanced Conservative Studies for many years.

COURAGE HONOR LOVE
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Russell Street For This Useful Post:
John ED Renstrom (06-24-2017)
  #55  
Old 06-24-2017, 11:56 PM
Kurt Arends's Avatar
Kurt Arends Kurt Arends is offline
PCS Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Council Bluffs IA 51503
Posts: 1,838
Thanks: 5,460
Thanked 5,083 Times in 2,360 Posts
Groans: 7
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

It would be a $25,000-$30,000 car, if properly restored. Key words being "properly restored".

However, I think you are light on your cost of getting it there. I would say closer to $50,000 in restoration cost. This rig is not going to go to someone who is going to slap it together, get bored with it in a year, and then expect to flip it for a profit.
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 06-25-2017, 08:37 AM
Paul Steinberg Paul Steinberg is offline
PCS Past President / Senior Website Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Woodstock CT 06281
Posts: 6,236
Thanks: 6,507
Thanked 11,570 Times in 3,780 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 9 Times in 9 Posts
Default

I think that you both are light on the estimated cost of restoration. I can see this restoration if done by an experienced restoration shop that would be a first class job, would cost north of $100,000. Today, the going rate in a restoration shop is between $150 - 200 per hour, unless you can get a contract price. I doubt that any shop would give a contract price on a job such as this, since there is no way to know what you are going to be getting into, until you tear it apart. Even then, there can be "surprises" lurking just underneath that no one can ever see before hand.
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 06-25-2017, 10:32 AM
Peter Grave Peter Grave is offline
PCS Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ottsville PA 18942-0250
Posts: 782
Thanks: 1,344
Thanked 1,885 Times in 1,057 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I vote with Paul in would be EASY to drop $100k at a "Restoration Shop". A rare rig that needs deep pockets or EDs devotion.
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 06-25-2017, 11:06 AM
John ED Renstrom's Avatar
John ED Renstrom John ED Renstrom is online now
PCS Elected Director 2016 - 2018
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Hot Springs SD 57747
Posts: 11,027
Thanks: 3,893
Thanked 14,261 Times in 6,014 Posts
Groans: 2
Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default

The problem with money is if you got it some one else wants it. There is no end to the amount of money you can wast getting any project done. But body wise I see nothing to get excited about. Interier will provide some challenges and mechanically is unknown. But all your buying is a money pit. As we all know. It is strange to me that so few of these have lasted today. Mainly just a few snap shots.
__________________
drop in for coffee anytime
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 06-25-2017, 11:25 AM
Paul Steinberg Paul Steinberg is offline
PCS Past President / Senior Website Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Woodstock CT 06281
Posts: 6,236
Thanks: 6,507
Thanked 11,570 Times in 3,780 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 9 Times in 9 Posts
Default

Like so many cars of the past that were considered "ugly" during there time, and were not preserved, the few remaining examples are suddenly desirable. Many people want the rarity, rather than the common, for many personal reasons. Just watch the collector car auctions and you will find many examples of this in action. Two wealthy bidders are willing to go head to head, until one of them finally realizes that they have allowed their ego to cloud good judgment, and drops out of the bidding. The biggest problem that I see with the possible restoration of this vehicle, is that for the masses of the collector car hobby, professional car collectors represent only a very small percentage. Of that small percentage, there are realistically only a few that could afford to take on a project as expensive as this one is going to be. I can see people that would consider owning this vehicle, would consider it as a status symbol, since to my knowledge there is only one other left in existence, and from what I was told, it is in better condition than this one. If and when it will be offered for sale is a question that cannot be answered with any certainty.
Many years ago, there was a Guardian ambulance offered for sale by Desert Valley Auto Parts in Arizona, and it sold quickly, and never resurfaced again. I wonder if this might be that same car. Unfortunately, I lost the one picture that I had of it, however, one of our other members might have save the picture.
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 06-25-2017, 01:12 PM
Kurt Arends's Avatar
Kurt Arends Kurt Arends is offline
PCS Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Council Bluffs IA 51503
Posts: 1,838
Thanks: 5,460
Thanked 5,083 Times in 2,360 Posts
Groans: 7
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Paul,

It is the same rig that Desert Valley had.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Kurt Arends For This Useful Post:
Paul Steinberg  (06-26-2017)
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Guardian ambulance Jim Staruk General Discussion Forum 19 03-03-2014 09:24 AM
11/10 ambulance toys auction in PA Attila Bethlenfalvy For Sale To The Public At Large 0 11-07-2012 12:37 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2009 - 2018 Friends of the Professional Car Society