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Old 09-17-2017, 05:59 PM
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Yes - THERE ARE CIVILIAN OWNERS of Ford Explorers having CO issues ... !Possible Carbon Monoxide Leaks in
Ford Explorers..........-
BOOM!!!!!
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Old 09-17-2017, 09:30 PM
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Before I start let me say I am not a Ford dealer nor do I have stock in Ford Motor Co. I have bought sold and driven for personal use many Ford cars and trucks for 55 years almost all have served me or my business well. I am sure there is some kind of issue with the Explorers minor at the worst. If you have sold 1.3 million Explorers and had only 2700 complaints,three crashes and 41 injuries that represents a very small percentage of the vehicles. There were probably more crashes and injuries from bees flying around inside the vehicle a driver defect? I am sure there is an issue with the equipment upfitters sloppy work and this will be overcome (remember the Crown Victoria gas tank) at Fords expense. So far as the public owners go any number of things can cause CO to get in the passenger area, failing to close tailgate tightly,a rear door window ajar with front closed a weather strip pulled loose, collision damage minor will do it if a body seam is split open, a friend or brother in law who is a lawyer. I am sure it will all come out as the hand wringing media will be sure to tell us. In the mean time if this is a big worry and you have an Explorer I suggest you park it and use public transportation. This week I have a wrecked but repairable 2015 police and a 2014 University security Explorers coming in and they will be for sale the buyers will be informed on their bill of sale of this issue and told to check with Ford. MY TWO CENTS
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Old 09-17-2017, 10:27 PM
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Since I started driving an 07 Exploder a month ago, I can and will tell you there is a minor problem with the gasket on the left exhaust manifold eroding over time.

I can hear it in mine, and when I have time to play I'll be looking into it.
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:29 AM
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My sister and brother-in-law in the Twin Cities just attended the funeral for the teen-aged son of some friends of theirs a week or so ago. This boy and a friend were sitting in an idling Ford Explorer and both kids died from Carbon Monoxide poisoning. My sister said that this was an "older" Explorer, so I don't know what year or any further details.
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Just received a text from my sister. The funeral for the boy was yesterday.
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Old 10-13-2017, 10:42 AM
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An older Ford Explorer could have had a rusted out exhaust system, that would not be the fault of Ford Motor. With the newer Ford Explorers, there is a definite manufacturing fault. On one occasion, my CO detector has read 2 PPM on a short trip under 5 miles. The one thing that I have found, is that the problem isn't one that is consistent, and I have not been able to pin down the variables.
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Paul; Its a two person job you need seat folded down and be in the back with detector while vehicle is being driven to find source. My guess is will be coming in around the gate or through the well.
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While CBS isn't exactly a trusted source, their reporting on Exploder CO levels matches up with a lot of others.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ford-ex...e-leak-police/

My humble opinion is you'd have to spend a lot of time sealed up in an Exploder to get to a toxic level of CO in the vehicle, and I have doubts the makeup air for the passenger compartment is being pulled from under the hood.
The Ford V-8 is also not a high producer of CO if the emission system is functioning.

Ford appears to be taking a more serious look at CO leaks in Explorers than they did when Pintos & Crown Vics were self igniting long burning road flares.
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Old 10-13-2017, 11:29 PM
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Now me I have dumped cars for a lot less then this.
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