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Kurt Arends 02-05-2017 12:08 AM

'77 M-M Combo Back For Another Go
 
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This one probably would have sold by now had the upholstery in the back not been messed up.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-Cadilla...16.m2516.l5255

David Henry 02-05-2017 02:16 PM

I think Murray has had this for sale at least 3x in the past year.

John ED Renstrom 02-05-2017 09:37 PM

Not a bad price. I would go for it if I didn't all ready have 4 out side

Kent Dorsey 03-17-2017 03:13 PM

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well, everyone wondered where it would land...

Brady D Smith 03-17-2017 04:32 PM

Thank heavens.........
 
I am really glad this found a good home. I was tempted, but like Ed I have more projects than room. This deserved to be saved and loved on.

Bill Marcy 03-17-2017 07:21 PM

Kent, congratulations to you! Is the car like I told you it was when I sold it to Bo Pound, or is it worse? I truly hope you will restore it, as it deserves.

Adam Borkat 03-17-2017 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kent Dorsey (Post 841917944)
well, everyone wondered where it would land...

Congratulations, I was wondering how it might look in green! You can have that done before May, right ;)

Kent Dorsey 03-17-2017 10:27 PM

Hey Brady, Bill and Adam...
We were extremely busy here when Murray got here, I didn't have a lot of time. There was a sacrifice in the deal, the 76 M-M Citation went with Murray. We also made a deal on some 2 man Ferno Washington stretchers, and a nice low boy stretcher that he will probably wheel and deal on sometime.
I haven't had a lot of time to go over the car yet, it has a few mechanical issues that need to be addressed, doesn't seem to be anything major.
It is a rare car and I have grown to love 77-79 Cadillacs...
Adam, don't look for green though.. what is that color? 1977 Academy Gray? hmmm.... ya never know...
Thanks to Bill Marcy and Dan Herrick for filling in some blanks over the last few weeks...

David Henry 03-17-2017 10:39 PM

I know Murray tried to have that sold a few times, glad it found a great home. Before I made a deal with Bill for the Lifeliner this car came close to being my first one.

Abe Bush 03-18-2017 04:18 AM

I hate all 77's, as they literally killed the pro-car industry.

Russell Street 03-18-2017 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Abe Bush (Post 841917951)
I hate all 77's, as they literally killed the pro-car industry.

More like a bunch of dumbass, know nothing, yet know everything politicians killed the pro car industry. The auto industry just did what they were told to do!!!

Hopefully that "climate" changes now that we've got more common sensed people in charge. We'll see!!!

John ED Renstrom 03-18-2017 11:46 AM

To call that set of years as down sized caddys, is to says you never had one in your garage. They take up a lot of room. But really what killed the pro car was cost. Vans were a lot cheaper to buy and convert. EMS was moving from funeral home based to independent or fire house.the prestige of a caddy ambulance gave way to quility of care. Which has now evolved in to if mine is bigger then yours I'm better.

I'm my way of thinking loss of completion is what killed the pro car. All the companys Combined in to one with cookie. Cutter styling. By 77 was really only two companies building cars. By 79 only one

Danny Hutcheson 03-18-2017 01:12 PM

Appears to be an excellent example of a rare breed.

Steve Loftin 03-18-2017 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Bush (Post 841917951)
I hate all 77's, as they literally killed the pro-car industry.

Not quite - federal government regulations forced this to happen; THEY did this to the procar (and entire automotive) industry.

The '77s were merely the symptoms of this disease. Few manufacturers, dealers, or consumers wanted this.

Kent Dorsey 03-19-2017 01:00 PM

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Finally had a little time for it today, a few photos before it heads off to Godfrey's Garage tomorrow.
I think the only mounted lights I have seen on this era of car are the beacon rays, the 184 light (non mounted, just posing) in the photos has some kind of triple attachment to it, whereas this car has the single bored hole...
Does anyone have a 184 light mounted to one of these or photos of any? (Maybe Ron Devies blue combination had a power light on second thought?)

Paul Steinberg 03-19-2017 01:31 PM

With the light mounted, it looks like it will be too high to get into the garage.

Steve Loftin 03-19-2017 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kent Dorsey (Post 841917960)
Finally had a little time for it today, a few photos before it heads off to Godfrey's Garage tomorrow.
I think the only mounted lights I have seen on this era of car are the beacon rays, the 184 light (non mounted, just posing) in the photos has some kind of triple attachment to it, whereas this car has the single bored hole...
Does anyone have a 184 light mounted to one of these or photos of any? (Maybe Ron Devies blue combination had a power light on second thought?)

Note that it will take a 184-H (tall skirt, cut to fit) to properly accommodate the roof contour of this car, whether you use one or a pair.

Chuck Kramer 03-19-2017 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kent Dorsey (Post 841917944)
well, everyone wondered where it would land...

One of ten 1977 M/M Combinations, Not sure how many were of the limousine style. Ten total combinations in 1978 and five total combinations in 1979.

John ED Renstrom 03-19-2017 10:26 PM

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easy enough to make a D out of any light. all they did was use the top plate and
turn it up side down. the three bolts would go threw it draw the bottom plate up till it's under the skirt. use 1/8 in piece of pipe for your center or drill down threw the approach size bolt. if yous has the hot shoe for a contact you will need to make a contact if yours is the wires you feed it down threw the hole . but a wing nut on the bottom and you now have a D. you can order a tag off ebay to even say so.

here is a pictures of a D I made using a piece of stainless for a bottom plate.

Kent Dorsey 03-20-2017 12:57 PM

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Just a heads up, Murray got the 76 M-M Citation. I do not know his plans:

Kurt Arends 03-20-2017 01:08 PM

IMHO, M-M built the best looking ambulances and limousine style coaches built during the '77-'79 model years.

Kent Dorsey 04-07-2017 10:24 AM

The '76 M-M ended up on Craigslist in Kentucky, I will let someone else post if they want to...

Paul Steinberg 04-07-2017 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kent Dorsey (Post 841918313)
The '76 M-M ended up on Craigslist in Kentucky, I will let someone else post if they want to...

I'd post the link, but I was banned!!! :mad:

Kent Dorsey 04-07-2017 06:22 PM

You were banned from Kentucky? or banned from Craigslist? (hhmmm, maybe we don't wanna know the answer to be banned from Craigslist...:D

Kurt Arends 04-07-2017 07:29 PM

Banned, or just disciplined???

Kent Dorsey 04-18-2017 03:20 PM

About to order coil springs for the '77 M-M, hopefully new drapes in soon. Thanks to Noah Dorsey, James Welch, Dave Plante and Cary Livingston for drape parts, and offers of assistance from Daniel Scully.
Sounds like body shop will get the '77 in September... stay tuned...

Ron Devies 04-21-2017 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kent Dorsey (Post 841917960)
Finally had a little time for it today, a few photos before it heads off to Godfrey's Garage tomorrow.
I think the only mounted lights I have seen on this era of car are the beacon rays, the 184 light (non mounted, just posing) in the photos has some kind of triple attachment to it, whereas this car has the single bored hole...
Does anyone have a 184 light mounted to one of these or photos of any? (Maybe Ron Devies blue combination had a power light on second thought?)

My 1980 S&S Victoria Combination (My Very First Pro Car) had a 184 on the roof

Kent Dorsey 05-15-2017 08:40 PM

it's curtains...
 
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This car was in bad need of drapes... got it back today. Very pleased with the gray tickweave drapes...

John ED Renstrom 05-15-2017 09:37 PM

Try the plumbers helper trick on that quarter​ you might be plesently surprised

Bill Marcy 05-17-2017 06:23 PM

Kent, I can see you getting ready for the new color scheme, I am anxious to see it finally painted.

Kent Dorsey 08-18-2017 11:12 AM

Update...
 
For those that were interested in the rescue of this '77 so it wouldn't suffer a Ghostbuster's fate or any other undesirable fate...
The car is scheduled to go to the body shop mid September... estimate was it would be there 7 weeks.
1977 Cadillac Academy Gray Metallic...

John ED Renstrom 08-18-2017 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Abe Bush (Post 841917951)
I hate all 77's, as they literally killed the pro-car industry.

You mean you hate GM for not coming out with a better car. Same as today.

Kent Dorsey 09-12-2017 05:31 PM

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New coil springs raised it a bit, moved Coker American Classics from '81 to the '77... 1.6 inch whitewalls should look nice with new paint... a last gander while it's white:

Bill Marcy 09-12-2017 09:31 PM

Hey Kent, she is looking better already! One correction though, I don't think Coker makes the American Classic tires. As I understand it, Coker Tires are now made in China, American Classics are made in Pennsylvania, USA.

John ED Renstrom 09-13-2017 12:05 AM

cleaning up nilcly

Kent Dorsey 09-13-2017 10:38 AM

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On the Coker site, it says these are made in USA... someone mentioned to me they thought these were manufactured by Cooper... Just bought a set to go on the '77 S & S, which was sporting some 15 year old Broadway's that have been passed around about 4 cars...

John ED Renstrom 09-13-2017 11:20 AM

They are sold at two on line locations cooker and universal. My guess is both places are the same parent company. What I don't understand is why they don't make a Heaver load rating tire. They are a good looking tire on a car. If they are manufactured by Cooper they have a 235 that is rated will over 2000 lb it just comes with raised white letters. All the bias ply tires are made over seas. It is my understanding that cooker is a distrupiter not a manufacturer. They put out there specs and some one bids to make them.

Chuck Kramer 09-13-2017 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kent Dorsey (Post 841920979)
New coil springs raised it a bit, moved Coker American Classics from '81 to the '77... 1.6 inch whitewalls should look nice with new paint... a last gander while it's white:

Looking forward to see it with it's new color! Then I would like to see current photos of all your coaches again! Thanks in advance!

Jon VanDermark 09-13-2017 05:22 PM

Kent,
Where did you get the cloth for the drapes?

Kent Dorsey 09-13-2017 05:34 PM

The local trim shop that did the drapes for the 73, 76 and 77 S & S had sample material, the shop owner said there were some types of material that wouldn't work well because the threads would pull apart easily. He told me after I picked out a fabric he would look at it and tell me if he thought it would work. As you probably know, you need to use a good automotive interior fabric so it won't fade...


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