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Tony Karsnia 03-20-2012 05:17 PM

Miller-Meteor Olympian / Eureka Monticello
 
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I didn't want to hijack Attila's thread in the Technical Section regarding commercial glass hearses, so I decided to start a new thread here to discuss a seldom-seen commercial glass car that was built in the mid-90s.

In 1995, S&S and Superior were offering commercial glass cars S&S with the traditional, squared-off look of their Masterpiece and Victoria hearses and the same style on the Lincoln Park Hill and Park Lane hearses. Superior offered aerodynamic commercial glass on their line of Sovereign and Crown Sovereign hearses.

Over in Norwalk, Ohio at CCE, Eureka and Miller-Meteor hearses were built as standard glass cars only for 1993 and 1994. Then, in 1995, commercial glass cars were designed under both nameplates: The Miller-Meteor Olympian and the Eureka Monticello, which were built on the rear-wheel-drive Cadillac Fleetwood chassis. I was selling Eurekas and Miller-Meteors at the time and I remember the news coming down the pike about the new, larger models. If my recollections are correct, the Olympian and Monticello came out later in 1995, as they weren't even listed in the brochures for that year.

These cars joined the model lineup for 1996 and were listed in the brochures (along with the Buick Special "Builac" concept that had started out as a coprorate offering only.)

Other than the nameplates, about the only differneces between a Miller-Meteor and a Eureka in those days were (a) the style of the landau bows; Eureka had straight bows while M-M's came with the "double S" style, and (b) the rear floor hardware; M-M coaches typically had rectangular roller housings while Eurekas used the "pointed-end" style roller housings.

Therefore, cars tended to be badged as whatever they might need to be to fulfill an order on any given day. We sold a Miller-Meteor Olympian that was technically a rebadged Eureka Monticello (that exact car is now owned by PCS member Matt Mahutga.)

I've scanned most of the 1996 Miller-Meteor brochure. At an outward glance, the standard glass LeClassic and commercial glass Olympian look similar, but the Olympian's dimensions are larger all the way around and this is noticable if you are standing next to the car.

I would assume (and suspect we'll soon know for sure based on the discussion in the Technical forum) that the CCE commercial glass cars used the same aerodynamic windshield as the Superior Sovereign series.

Tony Karsnia 03-20-2012 05:26 PM

A better look at the dimensions...
 
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These scans should allow for better viewing of the dimensions.

Tony Karsnia 03-20-2012 05:49 PM

1996 Eureka Cadillac Monticello
 
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This one went to O.E. Larson-Osborne Mortuary (also serviced Rainville Brothers and Hanson-Johnson Mortuaries) in Minneapolis, MN. This car had a mulberry (burgundy) leather interior and woodgrain rear floor.

(Karsnia photos)

Tony Karsnia 03-20-2012 05:55 PM

1996 Miller-Meteor Cadillac Olympian
 
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This one went to the Olson-Schwartz Funeral Home in Bemidji, MN. It was the re-badged Eureka, had a dark blue leather interior with white formica rear floor. This is the only Monticello / Olympian I remember seeing (and there weren't that many to begin with) that did not have a crown roof band.

After being traded in by Olson-Schwartz in 2004, this car was repainted black, used as a removal car by Johnson-Williams livery in Minneapolis and now resides in the Matt Mahutga collection.

(Karsnia photos)

Attila Bethlenfalvy 03-20-2012 06:25 PM

To illustrate the difference in proportions, the blue side panel (behind) is out of '95 Eureka Monticello. It is a 2.5" taller and almost 6" longer than this 'common' gray '95 Eureka side panel. (Inner fender panels likewise have almost 6" difference.)

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/1761/dsc08972o.jpg

And where did designers compensate for this additional room? Commercial side glass, roof line, and extra space from top of side window molding to drip rail. Nicely done.

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/31/dsc09055o.jpg

John Royark JR 03-20-2012 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Attila Bethlenfalvy (Post 68167)
To illustrate the difference in proportions, the blue side panel (behind) is out of '95 Eureka Monticello. It is a 2.5" taller and almost 6" longer than this 'common' gray '95 Eureka side panel. (Inner fender panels likewise have almost 6" difference.)

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/1761/dsc08972o.jpg

And where did designers compensate for this additional room? Commercial side glass, roof line, and extra space from top of side window molding to drip rail. Nicely done.

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/31/dsc09055o.jpg

Thanks for the interior panel pic. I never would have thought of it being taller, I figured they would just wrap the headliner down a couple mor inches.

Pat Post 03-20-2012 07:23 PM

Very nice read. Thank you.

Guest 1 03-20-2012 08:21 PM

That one isnt mine.
 
Hi Tony, while I am graced with that car's presence from time to time, it belongs to a good friend of mine. Ben, who is currently working at JW owns it along with a few others I store for him. I think you had a chance to meet him at North Central Ambulance last Spring. He drives that coach almost daily and its been a very good car.

The only ex JW car I own is the 95 Buick MM.

Guest 1 03-22-2012 04:22 PM

That ones not mine (part two)
 
I got a chance to see the Eureka / Miller yesterday. It still looks pretty good, but the roof above the windshield leaks badly now, I assume it's rotted under the cover just above the windshield? Is that a terrible repair job? Can the vinyl be pulled back to repair it without having to put a new top on the car?

John ED Renstrom 03-22-2012 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Mahutga (Post 68334)
I got a chance to see the Eureka / Miller yesterday. It still looks pretty good, but the roof above the windshield leaks badly now, I assume it's rotted under the cover just above the windshield? Is that a terrible repair job? Can the vinyl be pulled back to repair it without having to put a new top on the car?

the answer to that is a big maybe. on that car most likly the seam has split. but untell you try you don't know.


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