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Rick Franklin
08-24-2010, 02:25 PM
anyone know where i can get a pair of purple rectangular high beam lights for my Lincoln? It uses a 4 lamp system. I also need/want a "wig -wag" unit, but Im assuming I can order that through Galls or one of my towing supply catalogs.

Mark Trask
08-24-2010, 02:30 PM
Hi Rich,

Here is a link for you.

http://www.hearseclub.com/store/purpleheadlights.htm

Mark

Douglas Smith
08-24-2010, 10:41 PM
I recently saw a purple HID kit on a hearse

W David Bessant
08-24-2010, 11:23 PM
I just received a set from that very same link, it took a bit of time with customs and all but I am simply delighted. I will try them on the road this week maybe......just for a drive and see if I get pulled over.

I would also like a wig wag device......if anyone can help.

Dave

John ED Renstrom
08-24-2010, 11:31 PM
three way or alternating flasher at any parts store. you can ask for a wrecker one to sometimes that jogs there memory as to what you need.

Paul Steinberg
08-24-2010, 11:45 PM
You can get purple glass paint at any hobby or craft store, and paint your bulbs. If you don't like the results, you can clean it off with some brillo pads. The paint is under $5 and sometimes you can even find it in a spray can.

Richard Vyse
08-25-2010, 10:41 AM
I just received a set from that very same link, it took a bit of time with customs and all but I am simply delighted. I will try them on the road this week maybe......just for a drive and see if I get pulled over.

I would also like a wig wag device......if anyone can help.

Dave

I used this on my 73 Lifeliner for the headlights. Real simple to hook up. Power in on "X", one line "L" to one headlight and "L" to the other headlight. You will need to ground them. Yuo can get at NAPA for about $23.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i277/RichardV_2006/Fkasher002.jpg

Paul Steinberg
08-25-2010, 11:23 AM
Don't forget to buy the connectors for the headlamps, so you don't have to butcher up your wire harness if you decide to put it back to original. They cost about $3 each and are a bargain compared to what a replacement wire harness costs...

Douglas Smith
08-25-2010, 01:29 PM
Is that one you can turn on and off and still use the high beams like normal or is it one that only comes on when the high beams are on?

Richard Vyse
08-25-2010, 02:11 PM
Is that one you can turn on and off and still use the high beams like normal or is it one that only comes on when the high beams are on?

Only comes on using a seperate switch, no high beams. I have mine working off the switch panel inside the ambulance. Paul is right, buy a set of connectors so you do not butcher the wiring system on your car.

Lawrence W. W. Wilson
08-25-2010, 02:33 PM
Paul, I have advocated using stained glass paint for light bulbs on the message board many times. I'm not sure if anyone ever took the advice or not. I have made purple bulbs for Tim Fantin and Bill Vance and red, blue, and amber bulbs for myself with very good results. You are right, the stained glass paint is in a spray can and is about $5 each. Maybe people will try it and save some $$...........

W David Bessant
08-25-2010, 03:47 PM
Thanks...I think I may well have paid a bit much and it is good to know about the paint, plus.....it would be easy I think if you get stopped.....to simply carry a steel wool pad....and use it on the lenses to satisfy the authorities. Maybe I worry too much!:cheers:

Douglas Smith
08-26-2010, 01:00 AM
Are Just the high beams painted purple on the hearses? How long does the spray on stuff last in the elements?

Paul Steinberg
08-26-2010, 01:25 AM
Under normal driving conditions, the stained glass paint will hold up well to the elements. If you live in an area that uses rock salt or sand on the roads in the winter, that will "sand blast" off any coating that you use. It is easy enough to do it over if this happens.

Rick Franklin
08-26-2010, 02:16 AM
im wondering......in order to NOT run afoul of the law, since most law enforcement that I know out here are oblivious to "purple" being a "funeral color", if i should play it safe and go with amber on the high beams? That way, they would look like amber fog lamps but when activated in wig wag mode would still give the desired effect.

Paul Steinberg
08-26-2010, 08:47 AM
You would get the same desired effect with plain white bulbs also. How many police cars have you seen that have wig wag headlamps that are use colored bulbs today? People notice the flash, not the color of the bulb.

John Royark JR
08-26-2010, 09:37 AM
Only comes on using a seperate switch, no high beams. I have mine working off the switch panel inside the ambulance. Paul is right, buy a set of connectors so you do not butcher the wiring system on your car.

You can buy a wig wag flasher fron Galls for $19.95 and still use your high beams. I have them on all my cars and they work great.

Dwayne Brooks
08-26-2010, 09:47 AM
Every state is different when it comes to laws on vehicle lighting, but wherever you are you should be safe having purple high beams as long as you aren't driving around with them ON unless you're at a car show or an actual funeral.

Just to be safe, find an article online about "the silent siren" where this is explained that purple has always been the specified color for funeral lighting & keep a copy in your coach.

I ran purple high beams in the '67 M-M and Kevin ran them for years before I bought the coach from Ron with no hassles. They were very dark purple, almost looked blue when not lit. Also running red high beams in the '66 Superior ambulance currently with no problems and have driven it all over the place. Having a "silent siren" article with you seems like a good idea to play it safe.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3537/3494875083_34a1878848.jpg

John Royark JR
08-26-2010, 10:02 AM
Every state is different when it comes to laws on vehicle lighting, but wherever you are you should be safe having purple high beams as long as you aren't driving around with them ON unless you're at a car show or an actual funeral.

Just to be safe, find an article online about "the silent siren" where this is explained that purple has always been the specified color for funeral lighting & keep a copy in your coach.

I ran purple high beams in the '67 M-M and Kevin ran them for years before I bought the coach from Ron with no hassles. They were very dark purple, almost looked blue when not lit. Also running red high beams in the '66 Superior ambulance currently with no problems and have driven it all over the place. Having a "silent siren" article with you seems like a good idea to play it safe.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3537/3494875083_34a1878848.jpg

Just because you have the silent siren artical with you does not mean you will not have any trouble. I know in Iowa it does not matter if they are lit or not you can get stopped for them (red also), although I have never had any problems with red or purple lighting, I know some that have. I know of a funeral home that was pulled over DURING a procession and ticketed for using purple lights, before they changed the Iowa code allowing them but the code states you must be a licensed funeral home to run them. City codes still vary, for example in Marshalltown the last I knew wig wags even in white were illegal, only amber flashing is allowed.

Mike McDonald
08-26-2010, 02:17 PM
Every state is different when it comes to laws on vehicle lighting, but wherever you are you should be safe having purple high beams as long as you aren't driving around with them ON unless you're at a car show or an actual funeral.

Just to be safe, find an article online about "the silent siren" where this is explained that purple has always been the specified color for funeral lighting & keep a copy in your coach.

I ran purple high beams in the '67 M-M and Kevin ran them for years before I bought the coach from Ron with no hassles. They were very dark purple, almost looked blue when not lit. Also running red high beams in the '66 Superior ambulance currently with no problems and have driven it all over the place. Having a "silent siren" article with you seems like a good idea to play it safe.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3537/3494875083_34a1878848.jpg

These look blue turned off.... BLUE means = law enforcement in most states and that's what they are "touchy" about.... the other example that really look PURPLE are probably more explainable. MM

Rick Franklin
08-26-2010, 05:19 PM
I'd like to hear what our resident law enforcement officers as well as our funeral directors have to say about the legalities and the useage of these lights.

Lawrence W. W. Wilson
08-26-2010, 09:55 PM
In Indiana a person is fine with any single color light [red or purple or amber] as long as the light is not turned on. Red/blue, of course, is reserved for law enforcement only. Blue by itself in Indiana is for volunteer firemen. In Indiana they use the word 'display' in the law and it refers to the light being turned on. As long as lights are turned off they are ok. It never ceases to amaze me that a police officer would actually take the time to even worry about some guy driving a 25 year old car with some purple lights on it. A cop who would do that definitely needs more to do during his shift. Police impersonators are one thing but nobody in this club in a hearse or ambulance is trying to do that. Common sense should rule here..........

Dwayne Brooks
08-26-2010, 09:58 PM
I've read where some of you guys even cover your emergency lights when driving through certain states due to specific laws in those states, as well as "out of service" signs being displayed. Seems every state has their own laws on our lighting configurations & lettering.
It just seems like a good idea to have a "silent siren" article with you to show an officer in case they don't know the story behind them & why we have them on our cars. It may not get you out of a ticket, but would show an officer they have a purpose & you're not just playing around.

It never ceases to amaze me that a police officer would actually take the time to even worry about some guy driving a 25 year old car with some purple lights on it. A cop who would do that definitely needs more to do during his shift.
Agreed!

Shawn Blyler
08-26-2010, 10:39 PM
Probably at least 15 years ago, my step-father bought a 1971 Cadillac 54" high top ambulance. Every time we drove through town, we would get pulled over. Showed them the info page on the PCS, they didn't care. In order to drive it with the lights still on the vehicle, it had to have an emergency vehicle license plate. Or, all the emergency lights and the siren had to come off. None of these things were EVER turned on, it was just the fact that they were THERE. Needless to say, we got rid of it, as what good is it to have a vintage ambulance with empty light housings and no siren? That was just our luck here, hopefully you have more intelligent law enforcement in your area!! Good luck!

Russell Dalziel
08-27-2010, 04:45 PM
In Indiana a person is fine with any single color light [red or purple or amber] as long as the light is not turned on. Red/blue, of course, is reserved for law enforcement only. Blue by itself in Indiana is for volunteer firemen. In Indiana they use the word 'display' in the law and it refers to the light being turned on. As long as lights are turned off they are ok. It never ceases to amaze me that a police officer would actually take the time to even worry about some guy driving a 25 year old car with some purple lights on it. A cop who would do that definitely needs more to do during his shift. Police impersonators are one thing but nobody in this club in a hearse or ambulance is trying to do that. Common sense should rule here..........

I agree with Larry. In Michigan as Long as you are NOT using the Lights or Siren on a Roadway Etc They will not Bother You. Blue is Law Enforcement Only in Michigan. Green is Hospital Security and Command Posts. Red any Authorized Emergency Vehicle whether Public or Private.Purple Funeral Vehicles. Amber Snowplows. tow trucks Service Trucks and funeral Vehicles.
I have never stopped a Classic/Antique Emergency vehicle. I have checked it out to see what it was.

Russ