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Clay Sellick
10-25-2017, 12:36 PM
Hello everyone!
Today I thought I would share with you my new purchase and first pro car, a 1966 chrysler town and country Ambulance! I found the car in dunsnafnage PEI after 2 years of searching. I had an add on kijiji looking for a high top ambulance. A guy emailed me and said that he seen one while driving by a run down car museum on the main road in dunsnafnage. Me and my father took a drive from nb to pei just to see if it was true. Thankfully for us, it was. The fellow who was selling the ambulance actually ran the museum for 20 odd years with his father. We came to an agreement and 2 weeks later, I owned it(purchase date 23/10/17).

The ambulance runs, lights and siren work and there is minimal rust. Paint is original for the most part. Hightop is made of steel.




The interior is missing some things, like the arm to secure the stretcher to the wall. The holes are still there for it. The stereo and the dispatch radio are missing. There are holes on the top of the side door panels I think held scrolling from the ambulance service. Seats and headliner needs tlc.


Breaks need to be fixed. The car is equipped with a 383 engine and dual exhaust. Engine bay is very clean. There is lots of things to keep a person busy, but I could not be happier.
I was also able to track down a history on this ambulance. Unfortunately, I still have not found the coachbuilder as the ambulance was a one-off deal. I did however find out where it began life. It was first used by MacLean Ambulance Service in charlottown pei when new in 1966(http://www.emsclassics.com/rosterdetails.php?Province=Prince%20Edward%20Islan d).

The service used the ambulance for 10 years, and according to Clarence foster, the seller, the ambulance was sold to a fire dept in nova Scotia where it served as a fire chief vehicle.

This is supported by a vintage inspection sticker from nova Scotia in the center of the windshield. This was used for a while by the dept, when it finally was removed from service and sold to mr foster. According to Foster, he has ad the ambulance for over 20 years. This is not where the story of the ambulance ends however, as he has used if for various activities. In 2001, Clarence took the ambulance across Canada to car shows as a tour vehicle for Canadian Classics Magazine.

I found a picture of it. He had it labeled as the "coast Busters":confused:. After this, the ambulance served in 2 movies. One in Bathurst NB, and the other in Quebec. The one in Bathurst was called Full Blast, and was a"homo-erotic action thriller":confused: Don't look it up. Lastly, the ambulance can be seen in a youtube video created by the makers of trailer park boys titled "Speedy Pete EMT"https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0uZ7Qcf9zZg. I will use this thread to update you on what I do to the ambulance. Thanks

Clay Sellick
10-25-2017, 02:09 PM
I did not realize photobucket was extorting their users, so here are the photos hotlines through ibb. I could not edit the post to place them where they belong.
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Clay Sellick
10-25-2017, 02:15 PM
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Clay Sellick
10-25-2017, 02:16 PM
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Richard Vyse
10-25-2017, 04:05 PM
Very cool looking rig. Congratulations.

Dean Wilkinson
10-25-2017, 04:49 PM
This 66 Chrysler ambulance is a Ballyntine Conversion, Windsor Ontario. Ballyntine Conversions was run by Wally Ballytine , who at one time ran the ambulance services in Windsor, Chatham and London. The conversion business ran from the 50's thru the late 60's. Primarily building on Chrysler products, he also did some on GM trucks.

Clay Sellick
10-25-2017, 04:52 PM
This 66 Chrysler ambulance is a Ballyntine Conversion, Windsor Ontario
Thank you Dan for the info, I'll have to check them out!

Steve Loftin
10-25-2017, 05:23 PM
MacLean F.H. (Charlottetown, PEI)
1966 Renaud/Chrysler
(SL collection)

Steve Loftin
10-25-2017, 05:24 PM
This 66 Chrysler ambulance is a Ballyntine Conversion, Windsor Ontario. Ballyntine Conversions was run by Wally Ballytine , who at one time ran the ambulance services in Windsor, Chatham and London. The conversion business ran from the 50's thru the late 60's. Primarily building on Chrysler products, he also did some on GM trucks.


Built by Renaud, also in Windsor.

Bill Marcy
10-25-2017, 06:29 PM
I really like it Clay! It is beautiful and very unique. Congratulations enjoy it!

Peter Grave
10-25-2017, 10:25 PM
Congrats on the find a real cool rig perhaps one of a kind. Enjoy it.

James Fischer
10-25-2017, 10:32 PM
Congratulations on your "NEW" ambulance !!:applause:
She is a real looker.....hope you have a ton of fun with her !!:thumbsup:

Kurt Arends
10-25-2017, 10:38 PM
Clay,
Coming up with a F-W stretcher bar and mounting brackets is no big deal. If you can't find one closer to you, let us know. I, and others, have spares. Likewise with the side door sign monting brackets. Have fun with it!

Gus Boucher
10-25-2017, 11:26 PM
Clay,
Nice find ! Great save of another part of history!!!

Tim Prieur
10-25-2017, 11:29 PM
Clay, let me echo the others congratulations. May you have many enjoyable hours updating its needs and most importantly driving it.

Martin Harvey
10-26-2017, 05:32 PM
Welcome aboard! I follow this car since 15 years now and Im glad it's saved again! Keep it and enjoy it! I will send you an invitation for our local meet !

Clay Sellick
10-26-2017, 05:39 PM
Welcome aboard! I follow this car since 15 years now and Im glad it's saved again! Keep it and enjoy it! I will send you an invitation for our local meet !
Thanks very much. Would love to get involved in some meets. Also, if you have any more info on the car I have not listed, I would appreciate any extra. I plan on keeping this car for a long long time, so your tracking may be over:)

Dean Wilkinson
10-26-2017, 07:09 PM
Renaud's was the body shop that did the body modifications on the Ballyntine conversions.

Dean Wilkinson
10-26-2017, 07:13 PM
http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/b/ballantyne/ballantyne.htm

John ED Renstrom
10-26-2017, 11:14 PM
Sharp car. Hard to tell what they were using for a gurney mount

Martin Harvey
11-17-2017, 05:57 AM
Sharp car. Hard to tell what they were using for a gurney mount

By the drilled holes on the driver side we might be able to measure the distance between them and know what kind of cot was used? I guess a 54-L.

http://www.professionalcarsociety.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2822&highlight=ambulance+collection

John ED Renstrom
11-17-2017, 10:29 AM
All the fernos had the same spacing between the hook and the latch. Are all that were set up for side mount that is. Most of the wagon conversion used the 32. As it had the dropped basket when the head end was raised. The auto load set like the 54 would leave a lot of marks on that tailgate.

Clay Sellick
11-17-2017, 07:27 PM
By the drilled holes on the driver side we might be able to measure the distance between them and know what kind of cot was used? I guess a 54-L.

http://www.professionalcarsociety.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2822&highlight=ambulance+collection
I'll have to measure the distance on Monday as I'm working till then in Bathurst and it's in moncton. I'll let you guys know.

Nicholas Studer
11-17-2017, 09:23 PM
I'll have to measure the distance on Monday as I'm working till then in Bathurst and it's in moncton. I'll let you guys know.

The Model 1 was the only option from F-W available at that time for side-mounting. The Model 2/3 are the same thing with either both floor-mounted hardware or one floor and one side-mounted. The distance between sets of holes isn't relevant - with small changes it's the same product for approx. 20 years. If the car were older - or perhaps someone used "leftovers," it's possible the Washington Mortuary equivalent could've been used - the bracket/bar are slightly different based on generation. A final and less common option is Baumgardner - which was still producing product up to at least 1964.

The low-headroom cots at that time were the Model 21L (single-level, "two-man"), Model 54L (two-level, "two-man"), Model 32 (Multi-level X-frame, "two-man") and Model 27 (Two-level, "One-Man"). Of course, folks didn't always follow the "book" and could've used the regular height cot equivalents despite having a low-headroom vehicle. I think for 1966 with side-mount hardware obviously having been present - the most likely would've been a Model 32.

Congrats on your purchase. As far as I am aware, you have the second Chrysler-branded ambulance from the time period that survives today.

Darren Bedford
11-17-2017, 11:41 PM
Incredible looking car ! :thumbsup:

Congrats on it ! :smileflagcan:

Enjoy the ride,
Darren

:applause:

Clay Sellick
11-18-2017, 08:40 AM
Incredible looking car ! :thumbsup:

Congrats on it ! :smileflagcan:

Enjoy the ride,
Darren

:applause:
Thanks bud, I appreciate it. Looking forward to working on it after winter. Mostly all I have to do is get the interior sorted out and it will be pretty good. I'd like to try and go to the PCS meet:)

Ron Devies
11-23-2017, 11:42 AM
Thanks bud, I appreciate it. Looking forward to working on it after winter. Mostly all I have to do is get the interior sorted out and it will be pretty good. I'd like to try and go to the PCS meet:)

We would like to see it there :applause:

Clay Sellick
12-19-2017, 07:33 PM
Hey there guys. Heres a small update in regards to the 66 ambulance. I did find a strecher bar, horns and a whole other strecher. They were on an 80s ambulance but will be better than nothing. I Also found the following picture describing how Ballyntine built their ambulances. Can't wait for winter to be over so I can start getting her ship shape
https://i.imgur.com/nCQDLcy.jpg

Paul Steinberg
12-19-2017, 10:13 PM
Didn't have good copy to work with, so even though it is a little blurry, it can be read.

Clay Sellick
05-08-2018, 10:05 PM
Thought I would give you guys an update on what I've been doing to the ambulance. I ordered a new master cylinder and brake related parts so I can get the big girl to stop. I should be getting those installed next week. After looking at the holes in the interior of the car, I manufactured some brackets to mount my strecher bar to.
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It is very solid and works great. My mocom radio arrived so I mounted it as well. Still needs to be wired.
https://s7.postimg.cc/71gk5xyuj/20180508_202411.jpg The last two things I need to fix before it's on the road is the spare tire pan as it is rusted through, and I need a new carburetor. Il probably go with a 600cc edelbroch as if had lots of issues with hollys recently. Anyway. That's all for now. I'll update you when I get those things done.
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Ps. What is this black canvas with straps for? Looks strecher related.
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Bill Marcy
05-08-2018, 10:35 PM
Looking good Clay, I really like your ambulance.

Nicholas Studer
05-08-2018, 11:36 PM
Clay,

Forgive me for what may be a silly question- but the pictured/circled holes here are for a standard mounting bracket for the F-W Model 1 cot bar you have installed. You can see the outline remaining from where it used used to be. Was there some reason the brackets couldn't be used? I've attached the cot fasteners page from the 1963 F-W "Full Line" catalog for reference.

The black nylon pictured appears to be some form of "hasty litter," but I cannot say for sure. I would suspect more mortuary in nature than EMS - but could be either.

Kurt Arends
05-08-2018, 11:54 PM
Clay,
The F-W Model 1 mounting brackets that Nick described are a common bracket and readily available. I probably have 8 pair of them, if you are unable to find them elsewhere. Were the home-made black brackets with the car when you got it?

John ED Renstrom
05-09-2018, 10:34 AM
you would look correct with a set of slides on your rack. then of course all the nuts go in the inside to keep from hurting your self but defiantly moving in the right direction. if you cant find a s let of the flat bar mounts I should have a extra set here I can send you. but good job of engineering that rack to hold the bar.

Clay Sellick
05-09-2018, 11:08 AM
Clay,

Forgive me for what may be a silly question- but the pictured/circled holes here are for a standard mounting bracket for the F-W Model 1 cot bar you have installed. You can see the outline remaining from where it used used to be. Was there some reason the brackets couldn't be used? I've attached the cot fasteners page from the 1963 F-W "Full Line" catalog for reference.

The black nylon pictured appears to be some form of "hasty litter," but I cannot say for sure. I would suspect more mortuary in nature than EMS - but could be either.

Yes, I do believe that they had some sort of mechanism that bolted in those holes. Unfortunately, when I mounted it originally to the same holes, it was too low to grab the side of the strecher. I had to make the brackets because I had to go above the sidewalk of the car as it was too low as well. I will have to get shorter bolts but I think I'll keep the twist on nuts for easy removal. I see in the picture you included that there is a style of strecher bar that folds up. That would be ideal for me. Anyways, that was my method behind the madness.

Steve Loftin
05-09-2018, 11:58 AM
Unfortunately, when I mounted it originally to the same holes, it was too low to grab the side of the strecher. I had to make the brackets because I had to go above the sidewalk of the car as it was too low as well.

Is this to accommodate the #30 cot seen in earlier photos?

Based on the original mounting holes, your car likely had a #54-L or a #32 when in service.

Clay Sellick
05-09-2018, 12:04 PM
Yes, it's the same cot from previous photos. It came with the ambulance when I bought it.

Nicholas Studer
05-09-2018, 03:06 PM
The Model 1 was the only option from F-W available at that time for side-mounting. The Model 2/3 are the same thing with either both floor-mounted hardware or one floor and one side-mounted. The distance between sets of holes isn't relevant - with small changes it's the same product for approx. 20 years. If the car were older - or perhaps someone used "leftovers," it's possible the Washington Mortuary equivalent could've been used - the bracket/bar are slightly different based on generation. A final and less common option is Baumgardner - which was still producing product up to at least 1964.

The low-headroom cots at that time were the Model 21L (single-level, "two-man"), Model 54L (two-level, "two-man"), Model 32 (Multi-level X-frame, "two-man") and Model 27 (Two-level, "One-Man"). Of course, folks didn't always follow the "book" and could've used the regular height cot equivalents despite having a low-headroom vehicle. I think for 1966 with side-mount hardware obviously having been present - the most likely would've been a Model 32.

Congrats on your purchase. As far as I am aware, you have the second Chrysler-branded ambulance from the time period that survives today.

Yes, I do believe that they had some sort of mechanism that bolted in those holes. Unfortunately, when I mounted it originally to the same holes, it was too low to grab the side of the strecher. I had to make the brackets because I had to go above the sidewalk of the car as it was too low as well. I will have to get shorter bolts but I think I'll keep the twist on nuts for easy removal. I see in the picture you included that there is a style of strecher bar that folds up. That would be ideal for me. Anyways, that was my method behind the madness.

Is this to accommodate the #30 cot seen in earlier photos?

Based on the original mounting holes, your car likely had a #54-L or a #32 when in service.

Yes, it's the same cot from previous photos. It came with the ambulance when I bought it.

Clay - your Model 30 cot is 1980s/1990s vintage. It is likely something that was tossed in by one of the "Previous Owners." The Model 30 is too high for your headroom, but anything's possible. Station wagon type ambulances and combinations indeed had regular headroom cots at times.

As mentiond previously above, the Model 32 is very likely. I have one that is not being used, but hesitate to part with it at the moment. If you wish to make this authenti and cannot find one, please contact me and we can talk.

Paul Steinberg
05-09-2018, 10:03 PM
I also might have one. I will have to have Nick ID my cots to be certain. Then I need to buy Dan Scully a plane ticket, so he can come East to help wrap it for shipment... :D

Clay Sellick
05-10-2018, 08:46 AM
Thanks guys. For now il use the brackets, but I may be interested in the correct strecher in the future. Also,I see Paul is looking for one too but, if anyone has a folding strecher bar, I'm interested. Just make sure Paul gets one first. Thanks.

John ED Renstrom
05-10-2018, 12:11 PM
now then all the FW and the W stretchers used the same mount position. so if that set of holes were to low you would need something like you did to mount the bar onto the bar would have been attach straight up and down not at a angle. what they most likely had was a triangle piece folded over bolted to the angled wheel well that would keep the bar mounted square with the floor. you have just done it at a bigger scale. spacing is what you want to watch. you get them two far apart and you may run out of room to adjust the gurney for spacing front to rear. the slid mount will let you move the bar up and down for the small variation in the cots. so now it this old box doesn't crash again on my here are some pictures. on the first pay no attention to that bar as I built it to side mount the 28 in that 72 CB. the 28 should have the floor mount. I don't want to cut up the floor for something I have temporary there for the last 5 years. but the slid mount I talking about is attached to the wheel well. this allows for up and down moment of the bar. note the spacing. now we go to the 67 superior. notice the same slid mount notice the spacing. they are right at the same height vertical also. this one 90s gurney shows the amount of room you have to hook the bar on.

as for correct gurney offered that knowledge is impotent for History. but I bet there were way more rigs sold without a gurney then with one. they were offered, but most places used the one out of there older car if it was good. as a cost saving. that's why the manufactures made sure they swapped.

John ED Renstrom
05-10-2018, 11:15 PM
just for interest I measure the 53. right at the 3 foot mark comes out were they would be drilling threw the wheel well it's self which would be a invitation for disaster. so you can see they positioned the rear mount just behind the wheel well. eh front guy got it done with only three holes looks like a little more trouble on the rear. three hols do lineup though

Clay Sellick
05-15-2018, 07:23 PM
Fixed my spare tire holder this week. The bottom was rusted out so I bought a trailer fender that fit in the hole perfect. I also had fabricated a small repair panel for my lower quarter panel. All of this I welded in and then painted. To finish it I covered most of it with tar. Turned out not too bad. The red is a little brighter than the rest but I'll fix that later. I just received my new master cylinder , carb and centerdome. I'll get my mechanic to put them on when he does my brakes on Monday. Hopefully after that it will be inspected and ready to rock. I think I'm going to get a custom plate. I'm thinking drSpud(was bought in pei, whole island grows potatoes. Let me know what you think.
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Clay Sellick
05-15-2018, 07:41 PM
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Paul Steinberg
05-15-2018, 08:25 PM
Don't forget that your car should have riveted linings... Also, some of the linings are not correct in the primary and secondary lining lengths, so check your service manuals for specifications. Seems that the new shoe remanufacturers are not paying attention to important details. If the primary shoe and the secondary shoe don't have the proper length, it can cause some problematic stopping. Compare the old shoes with the new shoes, and make sure that they are the same.

Kurt Arends
05-15-2018, 08:27 PM
...................assuming that the old shoes were correct.

John ED Renstrom
05-15-2018, 10:10 PM
Looking good. But whats the green putty looking stuff for I never seen that before! But this is what it takes to get one back on the road you need to think out side the box. When replacement parts are just not there.

Clay Sellick
05-21-2018, 05:17 PM
Sent the car to get the breaks done and carb installed. Hopefully in a week from now I'll be driving it.https://s7.postimg.cc/tvcemelbv/Screenshot_20180521-180759.png

Clay Sellick
05-31-2018, 08:51 PM
Heres Something cool i though i would share. Jean Marc dugas just sent me this via work email. I don't know how he found it but I'm gratefully. Now with permission from the funeral home that ran it, I can recreate the graphics!
https://s22.postimg.cc/6oak97d8x/image001.jpg

Bill Marcy
05-31-2018, 09:43 PM
I like that Chrysler Clay, she is looking fine!