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Kurt Arends
08-04-2017, 06:32 PM
I picked these up this week. They have been in a pole barn for 10ish years and both have an inch of dust on them. Does that make them "Barn Finds"? Lol

1990 Superior Crown Cadillac w/5.7L Triple Navy Blue
1988 Eureka Concours Grey/Grey/Burgundy

John ED Renstrom
08-04-2017, 09:09 PM
the concrete floor deducts, but I guess you could call the pole barn finds. you collecting bookends now?:thumbsup:

Kurt Arends
08-04-2017, 09:35 PM
It's still extremely hard for me to look at anything built in 1988 and see it as being "old"!

In 1982 I purchased a 1956 Meteor 3-way and a 1956 Meteor combination(converted to an ambulance. It has since bounced around to 6-8 different owners). Those coaches were 26 years old at the time. Those 2 coaches were real head-turners and a blast to own! A 26 year-old coach today was built in 1991 and would turn very few heads on the street. I just have a hard time getting too worked up over anything built after 1976!

I just had to see these 2 coaches saved from a fate they did not deserve.

Tony Karsnia
08-04-2017, 10:33 PM
The Superior is a one-owner car.

Kurt Arends
08-04-2017, 10:48 PM
I know that the Academy Grey '88 Eureka was purchased new by the Roper Funeral Home in Lincoln, NE. I am not sure as to where it went from there. Both coaches have sat in that building waaaay too long!

Anxious to get those mud flaps off of the '90 Superior! I hate mud flaps on a hearse! They usually do more harm than good.

Paul Steinberg
08-05-2017, 05:05 AM
what are the other vehicles in the barn?

Kurt Arends
08-05-2017, 10:53 AM
They are history.

Kurt Arends
12-19-2017, 06:55 PM
The Superior is a one-owner car.

Yes. This '90 Superior Crown Sovereign was delivered new to the Helgeson Funeral Chapel in Roseau, MN on 9/15/1990. Roseau is one of the northern-most communities in the state of Minnesota. Helgesons traded it in to Great Country Motors on 9/30/2005 when it was 15 years old. It has been in indoor storage at Great Country Motors since then(yes, 12 years!). The coach currently has 63,500 miles on it.

Kurt Arends
12-19-2017, 07:01 PM
I know that the Academy Grey '88 Eureka was purchased new by the Roper Funeral Home in Lincoln, NE. I am not sure as to where it went from there. Both coaches have sat in that building waaaay too long!

Anxious to get those mud flaps off of the '90 Superior! I hate mud flaps on a hearse! They usually do more harm than good.

The Academy Grey '88 Eureka Concourse was traded in to Great Country Motors in 1999 and it was then sold to the Conway Funeral Home in Cresco, IA. Conways then traded it back in to Great Country Motors in 2002. It was then stuck in this building where it has been stored since then(yes, 15 years!). I am most anxious to get this one back on the road. Love the color combination with the burgundy interior. This one currently has 75,179 miles on it.

Darren Bedford
12-19-2017, 10:32 PM
Absolutely..... POLE BARN FINDS !!!

Likely much better than BARN FINDS in that the condition is likely twice as nice.

:thumbsup:

Enjoy the rides,
Darren

Larry Sears
12-20-2017, 11:19 PM
POSTED Vehicles were topic of discussion at noon today at C-W Coach Sales when Bob Hedges, Carl Woerner and Tommy Jones met to complete a 3-Way dealer deal that include 100 years of hearse selling knowledge in SAME place! Thankful for great memories they still have...WOW !!!:applause:

Kurt Arends
06-03-2018, 11:26 PM
I am embarrassed to say that I just got the first of these two coaches home yesterday and did the initial cleaning of 15 years worth of dust. The first time this coach has seen daylight in 15 years. I was pleasantly surprised as to the condition of this one! Needs brakes and exhaust immediately. Tomorrow it is off to have brake lines replaced. I think that I am going to like the '88 Eureka better than the '90 Superior Crown.

Peter Grave
06-04-2018, 12:03 AM
Just shows what a little detailing will do. Just like Cinderella. Imagine the two 51 Buicks after a similar dust and fluff. Sure looks sharp! Hope brake lines are not toast.

Bill Marcy
06-04-2018, 07:33 AM
Real good looking hearse, I love the colors of it, too!

John ED Renstrom
06-04-2018, 01:51 PM
To things destroy a car sunlight and mice.if you can avoid them storage is not a problem. Rust will grow on the bare spots still but if its dry not fast.

Kurt Arends
06-10-2018, 09:25 PM
........... and here is the '90 Crown after its first bath in 13 years! Hard to tell, but this one is actually "Shadow Blue", which is an '88 Lincoln color.... according to Superior's info in the door jamb. We ran up and grabbed this one yesterday. Washed it this afternoon.

A couple of minor this to do on both of these, and I will be offering both for sale.

Peter Grave
06-10-2018, 09:31 PM
Looks good for a quick dust and fluff. I am sure very few were made. Kinda busy trim wise for my taste but as my first boss at the Packard dealership said "There is an ass for every seat." Sure looks pristine.

Kurt Arends
06-10-2018, 09:33 PM
I agree with you Pete. Too much bright work for my liking. I prefer the look of the Eureka.

Tim Prieur
06-11-2018, 08:49 AM
Both are striking in their own way. Beautiful vehicles Kurt.

Kurt Arends
06-23-2018, 12:05 AM
Brake work completed and new exhaust from the converter back. Now just needs her alternator replaced(bad regulator).

John ED Renstrom
06-23-2018, 09:24 AM
I really like the balance on these. Yes they are just a shoe box but a nice looking one

Kurt Arends
06-23-2018, 11:34 AM
I agree Ed. I, personally, think Eureka built the best looking coaches built during the 1980s.

Kurt Arends
07-01-2018, 10:45 PM
Well, the Academy Grey '88 Eureka Concourse is headed to a new home within the PCS family! It will be back in service once again!

Kurt Arends
07-14-2018, 04:58 PM
So, I swapped out the wheel covers on the '90 Crown this morning. I don't personally care for wire wheel covers on Cadillacs, so I just put the standard(base) Cadillac wheel covers for '90 on it.

This coach has a vibration at 40 mph and I know that it is not the tires as I have changed those out as well. Any ideas as to where I should start in figuring this out?

John ED Renstrom
07-14-2018, 09:18 PM
bent wheel or drive line, first place to check. funny how the wheel will show up at just one speed. the drive like will usually get worse as e speed goes up.

Peter Grave
07-14-2018, 10:27 PM
Check drive shaft. Drive to 45 shift to neutral coast does vibration remain constant? If so points even more to driveshaft issue. If it stops then some where in motor or trans area.

Tim A. Fantin
07-14-2018, 10:56 PM
I agree, the wheel covers look so much better than the wire caps on the early 90's coaches.

Kurt Arends
07-14-2018, 11:44 PM
Actually swapped out rims and tires, so we can rule out those. Tony Karsnia had also mentioned that the drive shaft may be the issue as it tended to be a problem on S&S/Superiors of this vintage. I will give your test a try tomorrow Pete.

The "duck tail" roof is, sort of, growing on me.

Chuck Kramer
07-15-2018, 12:38 PM
Check drive shaft. Drive to 45 shift to neutral coast does vibration remain constant? If so points even more to driveshaft issue. If it stops then some where in motor or trans area.

Maybe the Center Drive Shaft Support Bearing? I am anxious for us to find out what the problem is/was!

Kurt Arends
07-30-2018, 08:55 AM
Both coaches('90 Superior Cadillac Crown and the '88 Eureka Cadillac Concours) now have new homes with PCS members where they will be enjoyed and preserved.

John ED Renstrom
07-30-2018, 10:20 AM
one of these day you need to keep one:rolleyes:

Kurt Arends
07-30-2018, 10:28 AM
I have had my '75 S&S 3-Way for probably 8 years, my '74 M-M Hi-Top for 3 years, my '75 Superior 54" amb. for probably 6-7 years and my many Mopars for 15-20 years.

These 2 coaches were purchsed merely to see that they were saved and preserved. I had no interest in keeping either one of these any longer than I had to. No room at the Inn! My building and garage are full. Unfortunately, about 20 others were crushed that shouldn't have been.

John ED Renstrom
07-30-2018, 10:51 AM
you sound like me

Bill Leverett
07-30-2018, 11:49 AM
My '73 Cadillac/Lifeliner had the same issue except at 45 mph. Turned out to be a wheel bearing.

Chuck Kramer
07-30-2018, 01:02 PM
Both coaches('90 Superior Cadillac Crown and the '88 Eureka Cadillac Concours) now have new homes with PCS members where they will be enjoyed and preserved.

Did you ever determine what the cause of the vibration was?

Paul Steinberg
07-30-2018, 01:22 PM
I have had my '75 S&S 3-Way for probably 8 years, my '74 M-M Hi-Top for 3 years, my '75 Superior 54" amb. for probably 6-7 years and my many Mopars for 15-20 years.

These 2 coaches were purchsed merely to see that they were saved and preserved. I had no interest in keeping either one of these any longer than I had to. No room at the Inn! My building and garage are full. Unfortunately, about 20 others were crushed that shouldn't have been.


What were they? Could parts have been stripped off of them before they were crushed? I know it isn't possible to save them all, but sometimes, if enough people take one, that will lessen the ones that are crushed. I often see cars for sale in the $1000 - $1500 range, and the seller says if they are not bought, he will have them crushed. The crushers don't pay very much, so why don't they sell them for the crush value if they don't want them any longer?

Kurt Arends
07-30-2018, 01:47 PM
It all happened very quickly. The decision was made by the owner to clear the building. I was there twice for half of a day each time and I was only focused on pulling coach builder-related parts and I still couldn't stay ahead of the guy driving the roll-back. The guy that bought those that were shredded took them to his acreage long enough to pull the radiators and cat. converters. They then went to Alter's Metal Recycling where they were dropped onto the conveyor. Alter's has a shredder, so these were not even crushed.

Kurt Arends
07-30-2018, 01:49 PM
Did you ever determine what the cause of the vibration was?

The new owner is going to replace the tires immediately as they are 15 years old.