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Dean Wilkinson
05-20-2017, 02:27 PM
Have been doing some work on the 68. Changed out the combination Federal 184 Light/Siren for a Federal 175 " Hill Climber". Also added an underhood Federal Dual Tone Siren. Am considering install a Mars TB8 on the hood as shown. Comments on the install of the Mars light in this location would be appreciated

Kent Dorsey
05-20-2017, 02:32 PM
Neatest car I've seen in awhile...

Bill Leverett
05-20-2017, 02:42 PM
Hi Dean. Nice to see that BC car getting some sun! The hill light looks great. The 184 didn't quite fit the era. I'm sure the dual-tone sounds sweet. I had one on my '73 Lifeliner and loved it.

As for the Mars light...from the angle shown, hard to tell. Do you have room for a fender mount?

Dean Wilkinson
05-20-2017, 02:48 PM
Not enough room for a fender mount without fabricating a stainless steel mounting plate.Will post a better picture later today from a better angle.

Terry Lange
05-20-2017, 03:26 PM
My opinion (since you're asking) is to place the Mars light on the roof. Either the high part, or the lower area in front of the ambulance sign, if there is a factory-type base out there that has the appropriate degree of angle to keep the light horizontal.

If you really want the light on the front clip, I would get a second one, and mount one on each side (either on the edge of the hood, or fender mount with a custom made base, as you mentioned.

Very nice rig, whatever you end up choosing!

Wayne Krakowski
05-20-2017, 04:42 PM
Rig looks great, and I know you will not add lights until you have thought it through, but the hood spot makes the rig look balanced in my humble opinion,

Dean Wilkinson
05-20-2017, 05:34 PM
More pictures

Kurt Arends
05-20-2017, 05:56 PM
I would not, personally, like the hood mount. My preference would be roof-mounted ahead of the ambulance sign.

Nicholas Studer
05-20-2017, 06:02 PM
Mr. Wilkinson - As the owner of another 1960s Mopar ambulance, yours is certainly one of my favorites, for sure.

I too like the Beacon Ray. It is certainly your car, but as you're soliciting opinions - mine is that the Mars light looks odd in either location. Agree with Kurt best place would be lower. I'd agree if you HAD to have it up front - fender mount or a balance of two would make best appearance to me. Regardless, I'm more a historical purist on all these things.

You have a Federal 66G exterior-mount siren. It's missing the rear chromed motor cover, which means the brushes and other internals are exposed at the rear. The Model 76 concealed mount variety had a metal band cover over the back. It's also missing the front cover. Both items are available from Kevin O'Connell, hopefully he'll be back at work soon.

Tim Prieur
05-20-2017, 07:51 PM
Dean, glad to see you are having fun with it. I was able to look it over when it lived out here and thought is was such a great unique vehicle.

I will weigh in on the 888. Personally I would keep the warning equipment relatively simple and go without it. The roof marker lights I feel will get overpowered by the 888 given their size and fact they are not sealed beam, and will not be noticed. If I was to apply it my vote would be directly above the ambulance sign. Should still be enough height for the 175 to be seen just above it.

Steve Loftin
05-20-2017, 08:03 PM
My responses to the comments above:

The CJ184 that was on it is period correct for the car.

The beacon is a Strat-O-Ray and was never advertised or marketed as a "hill climber" or "hill light". The one shown is a 1975-up version. Older original or period correct reproduction nameplates are available from several sources, as are correct mounting gaskets.

The siren shown under the hood is an exterior-mount 77G double tone with the front and rear covers removed.

A period correct 888 for this car would have a bulb and reflector, not a sealed beam as seen here. If an owner insisted on adding one of these, it would look better mounted on a Wayne-style contour bracket (depending on the contour required) over the cab.

That said...have fun with your car!

John ED Renstrom
05-20-2017, 09:11 PM
don't put that light on the hood. opening and closing will damage the hood or knock the bulb out. not to mention the pin riding in the track to give it the pattern. I never like the fender mounts but they were common and effective. now me. I would do two on either side in the roof below the ambulance sign. but then are the side markers winkers or steady burn?

there is center of the bumper in front of the grill.

and again there is the over kill thing. most of these car did not run a lot of lights

Ron Devies
05-20-2017, 09:40 PM
My vote is the roof but it looks great without it at all. I love that car. My second car I ever owned was a 68 Dodge Polara 4DS I loved that car.

Nicholas Studer
05-21-2017, 12:10 AM
Steve is right about the siren. I missed the double-tone vent pattern.

Dan Brintlinger
05-21-2017, 12:40 AM
The 888 on the hood is perfect to be seen in the the rear view mirror of the car in front of you..............its your vehicle........do what you want!!!!!!!!!!

Bill Leverett
05-21-2017, 02:29 AM
Thanks Steve for the information. What year did the CJ184 enter the market?

Bill Marcy
05-21-2017, 07:43 AM
Dwan, your ambulance looks great! I vote for the roof, not the hood.

Walter Suiter
05-21-2017, 02:22 PM
There is only one solution.
The light blocks vision when mounted on the hood, and may cause the hood to fall on your head when checking the oil. Ergo, hood must be ruled out.

The light blocks the sign when mounted on the roof.
Ergo, light must not be mounted in front of sign.

The only solution is to acquire another ambulance to mount the light on.

By the way, the sign is misspelled.
It should read

B A M B U L A N C E

Steve Loftin
05-21-2017, 09:54 PM
Thanks Steve for the information. What year did the CJ184 enter the market?

Without looking it up, 1965.

Steve Lichtman
06-09-2017, 01:57 PM
I think you'll damage the hood by mounting it there (in addition to the aforementioned damage to your head while working under the hood).

If it were me, I'd leave it off. Less is more sometimes.

Peter Grave
06-09-2017, 03:00 PM
GREAT!!! Rig I vote NO on the hood not a good spot center front roof is the place thats where they have been on every Mars light equipped ambulance I have had. Second point you may have issues with law enforcement (blocking vision) around here ANY light in the middle of the hood will get you stopped. Third point hood may crack around mounting due to weight and no reinforcement.

Doug Benson
06-09-2017, 03:11 PM
If you want more forward facing light, you could install a red sealed beam (4001R) in the driver's spotlight housing. Then, install a passenger side spotlight with the clear bulb. A simple, steady-burn red is very effective.

Wayne Krakowski
06-09-2017, 03:17 PM
Changed my mind, now that I have heard the pros and cons of were to place it I suggest you sell it to Len for display on the light wall at the museum,your unit looks great just the way it is and stood out at Joe jr's funeral for which we can not thank you enough.:thumbsup:

Richard Vyse
06-09-2017, 05:17 PM
Nice rig Dean and I personally love that MARS on the hood. I also like that battery cables.