Guess who brought a Criterion???

[Richard Vyse]

Our beloved Danny Ryder just purchased this beautiful 74 Criterion from somewhere in Texas. He is in the process of getting it transported to his location then I'm heading up to take a peak at it.
Nice Criterion Danny and another Pro-Car saved by a PCS member. :thumb:

Take the angled siren mounts and send to John to have more made, please!!!
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad306/PCS_photos/Criterion1.jpg

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad306/PCS_photos/Criterion2.jpg

Robert, same battery controller that I have on mine
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad306/PCS_photos/Criterion3.jpg

[Richard Vyse]

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad306/PCS_photos/Criterion4.jpg

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad306/PCS_photos/Criterion5.jpg

Wow, there's my air baffle I want....
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad306/PCS_photos/Criterion6.jpg

[Danny Ryder]

Before anyone worries about the back glass being out I have a back door I stashed back about 10 years ago thinking I would need it someday. Not sure if passenger door glass in it or not but heard Cary might have one? Alittle dusty but has been covered so shouldn't have too much interior damage. From KS before this guy found it so curious who had it, should know soon.:applause: Want to thank Adam Borkott, Paul Steinburg, RIchard Vyse, for helping me with this decision.

[Doug Kelley]

Nice Save Danny !!

Appears very restorable and complete....

[Adam Borkat]

Want to thank Adam Borkott, Paul Steinburg, RIchard Vyse, for helping me with this decision.

Danny... I know we've only been friends for 14 years, but could you at least try to get my name right?!?! :D

And stay out of the booze at 9am, or at least invite me over first! :burp:

I'm so glad to see you got it though. I think once you get it home and cleaned up, it may be part of your long term collection, which is a rarity in itself. And Richard, if you do come up, let me know and I'll come meet up with you guys. Danny's garage is only about 30 mins from me.

Adam Borkat ;)

[Richard Vyse]

long term collection, which is a rarity in itself. let me know and I'll come meet up with you guys.Adam Borkat ;)

You can count on it......:cheers:

[Danny Ryder]

I do that with your name everytime Adam! I have flash back from guy I know at SHields Hearse Sales in Atlanta and before I know it I get the two confused. :hide:

[Brendan Martin]

Congrats Danny, it has potential.:thumbsup:

[Paul Steinberg]

Want to thank Adam Borkott, Paul Steinburg, RIchard Vyse, for helping me with this decision.

I do that with your name everytime Adam! I have flash back from guy I know at SHields Hearse Sales in Atlanta and before I know it I get the two confused. :hide:

Danny....... why is it you can't spell my name correctly either? :poster_oops:Thanks Paul Steinberg ...
Congrats on the car, and I hope to see it on the road quite soon. Thanks for promising me the air cleaner muffler for my car. How long do you think it will take to get it off the car and sending it my way?? Congratulations and thanks again... :thankyou2:
Paul Steinberg

[Richard Vyse]

Thanks for promising me the air cleaner muffler for my car:
Paul Steinberg

What you say???? Danny is not sure he is giving that up and if he does, IT IS MINE!!!!:YesNo:

[Danny Ryder]

What you say???? Danny is not sure he is giving that up and if he does, IT IS MINE!!!!:YesNo:

Berg, Burg? Ooooops! Now guys, no fighting over scraps!:bonk:

[John ED Renstrom]

OK Richard now you know what your looking for. either the one I pictured or one like this, but I think the tube going up front and the plastic housing are gone off this one. the difference is early or late 74 on the mount.
looks like a good find. on this one all the stuff is there. the damage on the quarter is repairable. also some vary expensive lights on the car. most people would shy away from a car that looked like this but all you really see is just dirt. you would be surprised just how the car would look with a good bath.

[Steve Lichtman]

Great, Danny! Glad to know another one is saved.:thankyou2:

[LeeAnn Boston]

The only name he got right was Reechard Vice. :poster_oops:

[Danny Ryder]

The only name he got right was Reechard Vice. :poster_oops:

Hehehehe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:yum:

[Richard Vyse]

RIchard Vyse, .

Actually, he has a uppercase "I" in my name so it appears is if ole Danny Ryder GOT THEM ALL WRONG! Go easy on him guys, afterall he is from them thar hills of Georgia!!!! :hide:

[Doug House]

Congrats, Danny. Another saved! :cheers: Welcome to the Criterion Club!

Interesting location of the front Ful-Vues. They look pretty good there, actually. Will you be swapping out the half-lightbar?

[Danny Ryder]

Actually, he has a uppercase "I" in my name so it appears is if ole Danny Ryder GOT THEM ALL WRONG! Go easy on him guys, afterall he is from them thar hills of Georgia!!!! :hide:


Maybe got criterian on the brain? Oooops, did I spell that wrong too?:bonk:

[Danny Ryder]

Appears car was last in service in Wakenney, KS in Treco County according to title. Anyone in that area or familiar with this car?:)

[Josh Gentry]

Don't worry Danny, we all know i cant spell either. And opairently neither can Richard, he wrote brought instead of bought.:hide:

Nice save, cant wait to see this one.:thumb:

Josh

[Bill Leverett]

Nice find Danny...I'm sure it'll look wonderful when it's done. Another rare vehicle found and saved...good work!

Bill

[Tony Karsnia]

I received a PM from Danny today, giving me some details on this car and his '67 Miller-Meteor.

Just a reminder to all that we are attempting to document as many Miller-Meteors as possible.

If you have a Miller-Meteor or locate one anywhere (even in a junkyard), please forward me a photo and the M-M body number from the dataplate (usually found under the hood on top of the left front wheelhouse.) As the list continues to grow, we may be able to better pinpoint how many cars Miller-Meteor built in any given year and how many of a specific type (Criterion ambulance, for example) were made.

:cheers:

Tony CARSnia

[Mike McDonald]

THANKS to Tony for taking time to do this. When I "acquired" my 1974 Criterion years ago.... thru the M-M Body Number reported back to Tony I was able to find out who had it new and all the other details right down to the type and color of the linoleum floor.

[John Royark JR]

I received a PM from Danny today, giving me some details on this car and his '67 Miller-Meteor.

Just a reminder to all that we are attempting to document as many Miller-Meteors as possible.

If you have a Miller-Meteor or locate one anywhere (even in a junkyard), please forward me a photo and the M-M body number from the dataplate (usually found under the hood on top of the left front wheelhouse.) As the list continues to grow, we may be able to better pinpoint how many cars Miller-Meteor built in any given year and how many of a specific type (Criterion ambulance, for example) were made.

:cheers:

Tony CARSnia

Tony, did I ever give you this info on the 67 Paramount I know about?

Also, as a reminder to everyone I am trying to do this with the 1949 S&S line. So if you know of one let me know. (Sorry about the hijack)

[Chuck Kramer]

I received a PM from Danny today, giving me some details on this car and his '67 Miller-Meteor.

Just a reminder to all that we are attempting to document as many Miller-Meteors as possible.

If you have a Miller-Meteor or locate one anywhere (even in a junkyard), please forward me a photo and the M-M body number from the dataplate (usually found under the hood on top of the left front wheelhouse.) As the list continues to grow, we may be able to better pinpoint how many cars Miller-Meteor built in any given year and how many of a specific type (Criterion ambulance, for example) were made.

:cheers:

Tony CARSnia

I think it would be of great interest to many to see this vehicle list and photos updated monthly and posted on the Miller-Meteor Website! Food for thought!

ck

[Danny Ryder]

It's here, it's here! Poor thing it is. About as good as I expected but of course will need work. Most interior seems to be there and intact. Gotta love the purple door panels with orange exterior. WOW!

[Richard Vyse]

It's here, it's here! Poor thing it is. About as good as I expected but of course will need work. Most interior seems to be there and intact. Gotta love the purple door panels with orange exterior. WOW!

We don't believe you until......:weneedpics_smi: Glad it is home Danny. Bill Wright and I talked about driving up one day for a peek.

[Peter Jennings]

Hey Richard.
If your going to come up this way, make a real trip of it and come join the South GA street Rods at the 32nd April Fools Rod Run in beautiful Waycross GA. Dates are 9 and 10 April. We have cars from Daytona every year. Go to http://www.aprilfoolsrodrun.comwww.aprilfoolsrodrun.com
This will give Danny some extra time to get it ready. You could also call it a NY shake drown run.
Lets really expose these people to more pro cars other than my hearse!

[Richard Vyse]

Danny texted me yesterday to say the Criterion came to life. Poured gas into her and cranked her up. Yeah Danny!!!!!! :pee_smilie:

[Paul Steinberg]

Danny texted me yesterday to say the Criterion came to life. Poured gas into her and cranked her up. Yeah Danny!!!!!! :pee_smilie:

Happy to know that some people follow my advise ...

[Danny Ryder]

Happy to know that some people follow my advise ...

I knew that trick from years ago Paul but tried something new I was told that was not worth a hill of beans but thanks for reminding me Paul. Will bypass tank and see if she will run, no telling what might be in the tank after years of sitting but after pecking on it sounds empty.:wowguy:

[Paul Steinberg]

If the tank is empty, just put a few gallons of high test gasoline into it, and then start the car... Usually, the tanks are clean and the car should run. I have rarely found that the tanks were gummed up like when gasoline was left in them back in the 1930's. My 1963 Chrysler started and ran on 20 year old gasoline once I got the engine started by putting gas into the carburator.

[Danny Ryder]

If the tank is empty, just put a few gallons of high test gasoline into it, and then start the car... Usually, the tanks are clean and the car should run. I have rarely found that the tanks were gummed up like when gasoline was left in them back in the 1930's. My 1963 Chrysler started and ran on 20 year old gasoline once I got the engine started by putting gas into the carburator.

Had that thought and have had good luck with that before. The cap was still on and no old gas fumes coming from tank. Maybe they ran out of gas and left it?:657:

[Paul Steinberg]

If you decide to part it out, and not fix it, I will buy the siren mounts on the roof, and the air cleaner pre assembly. I need these for the car that I will be buying from a Florida PCS Member, when he gets divorced and moves to Michigan with out any cars.. :D

[Richard Vyse]

If you decide to part it out, and not fix it, I will buy the siren mounts on the roof, and the air cleaner pre assembly. I need these for the car that I will be buying from a Florida PCS Member, when he gets divorced and moves to Michigan with out any cars.. :D


:wtf:


Finally get to use this one.

[David Martin]

If the tank is empty, just put a few gallons of high test gasoline into it, and then start the car... Usually, the tanks are clean and the car should run. I have rarely found that the tanks were gummed up like when gasoline was left in them back in the 1930's. My 1963 Chrysler started and ran on 20 year old gasoline once I got the engine started by putting gas into the carburator.

Years ago I had a friend who bought a "Barn Find"... would'nt start so until doing some Plugs,Points etc. He listened to another who suggested he dump some Av Gas in the tank and then prime the Carb with a few good shots...Yeah fired it right up...until the banging started...Helps to have Oil in it.:clap:

[John ED Renstrom]

man try to start one with out checking the fluid levels gets what they get. I have heard all kinds of stories on how to. but dump some fresh gas in prime and fire has always worked for me. just check to see there is oil and water. then look for leaks and be prepared for a stuck float. run it for a bit then check the filter at the carb. change if necessary. if it runs put a can of Sea foam in and ten gal of gas and drive it out. with a old engine the block is impregnated with oil and it will either have a gotten water down one cylinder or not. seldom happens to one with a Air Cleaner on and the hood closed. if it was running when parked it should at least fire latter. you get into more trouble swapping stuff around., leaving something off in your confusion.

[Steve Lichtman]

I had a little fluid problem when I bought my Volunteer ambulance. When I went up to look at it and test drive it, it had about 3/8 of a tank of gas. Not enough to drive it home, but more than enough to get to a gas station. So when I went to pick up the car, a friend dropped me off, and I was planning on just jumping in and driving off. I started it and it died. And the gas gauge was on "E". And the mileage was the same as when I last saw it. The seller, who was otherwise very nice, had siphoned the gas out and didn't even leave me ONE gallon to get to the gas station. The seller wasn't there, the ambulance was at a construction company shop next door. Fortunately, I got a guy from the company to take me and a gas can up the road so I could get enough gas to get it to the gas station. After that, it was fine.

[Danny Ryder]

When I got the criterion it had no brakes, did not run, and had two flat tires. After a few days poured gas in carb and she breathed a few breaths and then I put gas in the tank and today I tried her again and after several minutes of intense smoke she ran really good. Next the brake issue, master cylinder dry, fill and start pumping brake pedal and refilling and actually generate some brakes but saw leak about middle of car from brake line but just dripping alittle so next put in gear and nothing so ck tranny fluid and start adding and after six quarts it goes in gear too so after what I am guessing about ten years the 74 will start, go into gear, lot drive for now, and stop. Pretty good for one afternoon of work and some materials I would say. The lights and siren sound better when car is running to get most out of power instead of using jump box to play with the toys. :17875:

[John ED Renstrom]

she's alive shes alive:dancing::dancing::clap:

[Josh Gentry]

Danny, when do we get some good pics?:weneedpics_smi:

Josh

[Danny Ryder]

Danny, when do we get some good pics?:weneedpics_smi:

Josh

Josh, I have cleaned inside alot and some outside but not quite ready to take pictures yet.

[Doug House]

I'm really happy for you, Danny. I'm at about the same point with my '75 Criterion, and I'm enjoying every second! A long way to go, but what fun!

Best of luck to you!!!

:specool:

[Danny Ryder]

After only a short time and little effort the criterion will now start up and drive around the yard. Still needs some tlc to take off down the open road though. This is all good being I bought it not even expecting it to run at all being not started in years. Worst thing now is a leaky brake line and usual exhaust manifold leaks but that is not a big deal, I can always just sit and play with the lights and siren!:cheers:

[Danny Ryder]

Couldn't stand it, was playing with the criterion today and next thing I know I was driving down the hwy, sorta. Actually, there is an industrial park behind our dealership and it runs down the hill about quarter mile so off I went through the industrial park and back out on the road and back around. Got up to about 40mph in the short distance but hard part was trying to stop being hardly any brakes at the moment. What fun we have with these old cars. No idea how many years since she has seen the open road. After I get the brake line fixed and drivers side exhaust manifold worked on she will be alittle more drivable.:14_6_12: Look out Richard, I am after you!

[Richard Vyse]

Look out Richard, I am after you!

Bring it on big boy.....

[Jeremy D. Ledford]

Look out Richard, I am after you!

Bring it on big boy.....


Clash of the Criterions!!!!:badbad:

In a theatre near you.

Summer 2010:cheers:

[Eric Gourley]

Danny,
There were three cars from Trego County (Wakeeny) that were purchased by MAST ambulance in Kansas City, MO (or more specifically their contractor EPI) back in the 90's with the idea that they could piece together one good parade car out of the lot. That idea fell apart when EPI was disbanded and legend has it that the former employees took the cars for their own. I have some pictures of them someplace that I think came from Steve Loftin. Let me see if I can track them down.
Eric

[Danny Ryder]

Danny,
There were three cars from Trego County (Wakeeny) that were purchased by MAST ambulance in Kansas City, MO (or more specifically their contractor EPI) back in the 90's with the idea that they could piece together one good parade car out of the lot. That idea fell apart when EPI was disbanded and legend has it that the former employees took the cars for their own. I have some pictures of them someplace that I think came from Steve Loftin. Let me see if I can track them down.
Eric

Ooooh! Eric, any help appreciated here. Trego was last county to title the car I have and last tag was 1990. Guy in TX I got from claimed he had car about three years but he never titled it in his name and I don't know where he got it and he does't respond to my emails now that I have car. Title signed off in late 90's.:)

[Steve Loftin]

Ooooh! Eric, any help appreciated here. Trego was last county to title the car I have and last tag was 1990. Guy in TX I got from claimed he had car about three years but he never titled it in his name and I don't know where he got it and he does't respond to my emails now that I have car. Title signed off in late 90's.:)

Trego Co. Amb. Service (private service, contracted with the county; no longer in operation) bought all three of these cars used from Bob Dietz; I have no idea where they served new.

All three were purchased from EPI by the man you bought the '74 from. He still has the '72 Superior, and the '75 Superior is owned by a collector in MO.

[Danny Ryder]

Next step taken today: Took the criterion to exhaust guy to see just how much to patch that up. Think it needs drivers side exhaust manifold work and tail pipe work. Estimate reveiled to me in the morning. Next step will be leaking brake line. Will have to drive 20 miles to my mechanic for brake line work, that should be a hoot! I left the criterion at exhaust shop and told them brakes were very poor and nobody wanted to move to stall fearing not being able to stop but the guy who will do the work came in and said "Oh Boy" another ambulance to work on and speeded around the building with siren blareing. He is quite a nut but can't be beat when it comes to exhaust work.

[John ED Renstrom]

must be a think with the guys that do that work. the ones I run up to here love the cars to. got to get a muffler on the limo tomorrow man I just don't believe you cant get more then 24 years out of one of them. here they are working on getting the rattles out of Jim's 66

[Danny Ryder]

Two exhaust manifold bolts and tailpipe and she is ready to pick up. Price seemed fair at $170:alc:

[Danny Ryder]

Two exhaust manifold bolts and tailpipe and she is ready to pick up. Price seemed fair at $170:alc:

Little screw up with my info. Went to get the car and price was for three cars we had worked on and bill for 74 was $50. Two manifold bolts were replaced and a piece of pipe in front of muffler. They didn't notice tail pipe was gone past axel so after I get brakes fixed will take back for that. Got back to dealership and tried to put in park and shifter didn't engage tranny when moved so knew linkage had an issue. Checked and sure enough the clip had broke that held the shifter rod to tranny rod. No big deal there. My exhaust is quite like it is suppossed to be now.

[John ED Renstrom]

one thing after another till you get the bugs out. one has to have open mind to get a setting car back on the road.

[Danny Ryder]

one thing after another till you get the bugs out. one has to have open mind to get a setting car back on the road.

I know John, half the fun of it is working on them!

[Danny Ryder]

Thanks to Dave Ware for some glass I had our usual glass installer come by today and we got the back door glass in but it got late so he said he would come back maybe tomorrow to put the passenger door glass in. Another day another step closer to having a driving car.

[Dave Ware]

Thanks to Dave Ware for some glass I had our usual glass installer come by today and we got the back door glass in but it got late so he said he would come back maybe tomorrow to put the passenger door glass in. Another day another step closer to having a driving car.

:wowguy: sweet :wowguy:

You are going to let me drive that beast around the block one day code3 baby

right?

glad it fit if by chance the hardware is missing in the door let me know

shes looking better each time i see her

[Kent Rogne]

i have two back door glass that came from a Superior 1971-76 two different sizes. they might work. You can have them if you need them. just pay for shipping:D

[Danny Ryder]

i have two back door glass that came from a Superior 1971-76 two different sizes. they might work. You can have them if you need them. just pay for shipping:D

Thanks for the offer Kent, I think we have what we need at this point.

[Danny Ryder]

:wowguy: sweet :wowguy:

You are going to let me drive that beast around the block one day code3 baby

right?

glad it fit if by chance the hardware is missing in the door let me know

shes looking better each time i see her

Hey Dave, you can drive the heep around when I get her going but maybe shouldn't run the code 3 being we are located across from the jail. No interest in seeing it from the inside.

[Dave Ware]

Hey Dave, you can drive the heep around when I get her going but maybe shouldn't run the code 3 being we are located across from the jail. No interest in seeing it from the inside.


code 3 with a Q

if i am going ta jail then its going ta be fer somethinnn good :stop:
and what is better then with a Q

[Russell Dalziel]

code 3 with a Q

if i am going ta jail then its going ta be fer somethinnn good :stop:
and what is better then with a Q

A SUPER CHIEF LOL



Russ

[John ED Renstrom]

nothing like getting it sealed back up. to make you feel like you got a car. man can live with a hole in the floor a lot longer then glass missing.

[Richard Vyse]

I now own a 2QB. I think it sounds as good as the first time Terri said, "YES" you can do that!!! :thumb:

[Danny Ryder]

nothing like getting it sealed back up. to make you feel like you got a car. man can live with a hole in the floor a lot longer then glass missing.

Right Ed and I got the door glass done today so except for the drivers floor and a few other rust holes it is far better than it was.

[Danny Ryder]

I now own a 2QB. I think it sounds as good as the first time Terri said, "YES" you can do that!!! :thumb:

Richard you are bad but good at it. Don't know how Terri puts up with you! Just wait, I am going to tell her you kicked the dog!

[Danny Ryder]

After getting the windows replaced and tail lights and a few other things sent the old girl off to get the brake lines patched up and the return fuel line had started leaking near tank. Weird thing was after shop starting working on brakes they called and ask where the missing rear brake drum was! I ask what the %*#$& he was talking about and they said they pulled the wheel and no drum. Oh Shi%, I had drove this car on several short trips for a total of about 50 miles and never knew it was missing. I had replaced the front tires after getting the old girl but back were pretty good so hadn't pulled them. What person would put a wheel on without a drum? ANyway, with the help of my good friend Dave Ware he brought and delivered to shop a drum and spacer so maybe tomorrow the criterion will be half way road worthy for alittle fun. I have also been working alittle on her so if everyone promisses not to laugh I will post pictures by weekend.

[Dave Ware]

After getting the windows replaced and tail lights and a few other things sent the old girl off to get the brake lines patched up and the return fuel line had started leaking near tank. Weird thing was after shop starting working on brakes they called and ask where the missing rear brake drum was! I ask what the %*#$& he was talking about and they said they pulled the wheel and no drum. Oh Shi%, I had drove this car on several short trips for a total of about 50 miles and never knew it was missing. I had replaced the front tires after getting the old girl but back were pretty good so hadn't pulled them. What person would put a wheel on without a drum? ANyway, with the help of my good friend Dave Ware he brought and delivered to shop a drum and spacer so maybe tomorrow the criterion will be half way road worthy for alittle fun. I have also been working alittle on her so if everyone promisses not to laugh I will post pictures by weekend.

i meant to call you the tank filler hose you need to look at its time is up
yeah the big filler hose the one no one can get..

i was thinking of slipping that 71/75 out on the truck but they had a eye on me :hide:

[Danny Ryder]

Gee whiz Dave, if you look close at the old girl you will find many needs so lets get what is already wrong with it behind us then move on to something else. The 71 will be sweet when cleaned up a bit.

[Dave Ware]

Gee whiz Dave, if you look close at the old girl you will find many needs so lets get what is already wrong with it behind us then move on to something else. The 71 will be sweet when cleaned up a bit.


I know its just my way ..