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Scott Reinbolt
04-14-2015, 09:30 PM
There is a 1964 Buick combination posted on Dayton Craigslist. Price looks right if anyone is interested. http://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/4927551370.html

Ron Devies
04-14-2015, 09:40 PM
Wow, isn't that the car that belonged to a candy or balloon shop down there? Mike Stevens, this car has your name all over it. Pull one of those stacks of cash out of the sofa and get down there and see that guy.

Mike McDonald
04-14-2015, 10:08 PM
Seem's almost too good to be true! Hopefully a Ohio PCS'er will grab it up! MM

John ED Renstrom
04-14-2015, 11:18 PM
man why now we could have traded.:eek:

Todd Merrifield
04-14-2015, 11:31 PM
Looks like a good deal, but it's been on Dayton Craigslist for well over 6 months now, so who knows? I thought it was $7500 before though, so maybe the price has dropped...

Scott Reinbolt
04-15-2015, 10:00 PM
I'm an hour from Dayton and would be glad to go look at it for anyone who is interested. Just shoot me a pm or email.

Scott Reinbolt
04-18-2015, 10:15 PM
Price on this car dropped to $4,500 yesterday.

Tim A. Fantin
04-20-2015, 11:36 PM
This guy bought the car from Carl Woerner for around $4000. It was at one time owned by Ducky Love in Indianapolis. It had a large Chicken on the roof. There was a hole cut into the roof. It was repaired and a vinyl top installed later. The floor in the back was cut up as well but it looks like it has been replaced. It is not a California car. It was in California before making its way to Ohio but it's from Indiana. Also it needs a back window glass. Its made of plastic. Would make a nice car for someone though with some tlc.

Todd Merrifield
04-21-2015, 08:16 AM
Now $3900:

http://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/4984525648.html

Getting to the point where someone will buy it as a Buick parts car.

John ED Renstrom
04-21-2015, 11:14 AM
It's getting into my price range. With no pictures of the inside one doesn't know if the important stuff is missing.

Ken Novak
04-21-2015, 11:20 AM
Like his ad stats type 'buick hearse" on youtube for photos.

John ED Renstrom
04-21-2015, 11:31 AM
and give him a call his number is listed there.

Todd Merrifield
04-21-2015, 11:34 AM
I don't see any right now, but seller has had multiple ads posted at once that showed different views. Rear interior appeared to be finished off.

Edit: here is one that shows the drivers compartment:

http://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/4989011290.html

Rear:

http://barnfinds.com/hearse-ambulance-1964-buick-wagon/

More discussion:

http://forums.aaca.org/f117/craigslist-find-1964-buick-ambulance-hearse-391398.html

This thing has been around long enough that it is popping up everywhere, and is for sale on at least 10 different sites.

Attila Bethlenfalvy
04-21-2015, 11:36 AM
This guy bought the car from Carl Woerner for around $4000. (snip) Also it needs a back window glass. Its made of plastic.

Ah, thank you for reminder where I had seen this. One of only a couple coaches I was not able to ferret glass for.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7642/17224449605_941e1647a6_b.jpg
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8692/17038268699_9dfd641e47_b.jpg

John ED Renstrom
04-21-2015, 11:41 AM
Not being all that up on the flexable's ,was no divider or jump seats common in them. I can't tell if we are mixing cars here or not short wheel base of streached?

Here is the video. The car is older here still got calf tags

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t6z8e70Cso

Noah Dorsey
04-21-2015, 01:30 PM
Not being all that up on the flexable's ,was no divider or jump seats common in them. I can't tell if we are mixing cars here or not short wheel base of streached?

Here is the video. The car is older here still got calf tags

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t6z8e70Cso

Yes, I don't believe this car would have had a partition. Probably not enough room with one.

Terry Lange
04-21-2015, 02:01 PM
Not being all that up on the flexable's ,was no divider or jump seats common in them. I can't tell if we are mixing cars here or not short wheel base of streached?

Here is the video. The car is older here still got calf tags

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t6z8e70Cso

This is the standard-wheelbase Flxette model. It would not have had a partition. As far as the lack of a jump seat, it looks like whoever redid the rear floor, eliminated the seat and covered everything, including the stepwell, with a solid platform.

Kurt Arends
04-21-2015, 06:22 PM
It's still a loooong way from parts car pricing! The swb coaches just don't demand the prices that the lwb coaches do.

Scott Reinbolt
04-21-2015, 07:10 PM
Just got back from New Carlisle where I looked at the car for Dan Scully. Will post pics later.

Scott Reinbolt
04-21-2015, 07:26 PM
Photo of the builder's plate. 27743

John ED Renstrom
04-21-2015, 11:41 PM
thanks for the data plate. I'm wondering if it's not this one that was for sale out on the cost. low mileage and all but they had a hard time selling it. it went east and surfaced again in Ohio.

Todd Merrifield
04-22-2015, 12:09 AM
thanks for the data plate. I'm wondering if it's not this one that was for sale out on the cost. low mileage and all but they had a hard time selling it. it went east and surfaced again in Ohio.

That one has extended doors and a partition.

Daniel Scully
04-22-2015, 12:32 AM
This is the standard-wheelbase Flxette model. It would not have had a partition. As far as the lack of a jump seat, it looks like whoever redid the rear floor, eliminated the seat and covered everything, including the stepwell, with a solid platform.

This is from a 62 sales brochure it shows a partition as a extra cost option on the Flextte combination or ambulance. I would assume you could get this option until the end of Flxibles production?

Scott Reinbolt
04-22-2015, 06:45 AM
Here are a few pics of the New Carlisle car I took last night.

Scott Reinbolt
04-22-2015, 06:51 AM
Here are a couple more pictures.

Scott Reinbolt
04-22-2015, 06:55 AM
If Dan Scully didn't buy this, someone else might want to give it consideration. The car runs strong and shifts smoothly. Looks like it has body filler in rear quarters, very minor rust at front passenger fender wheel well. Looks like car was modified to have a back seat, the back seat was removed, and a new floor added, which appears to be plywood with a vinyl covering. Owner seems like an honest man, says bought it a year ago from CW Coach, wants the money to finish work on another project (he's a gear head) and said he thought about pulling the motor and tranny to use in a "hot rod", but can't bring himself to part out a numbers matching car.

Steve Loftin
04-22-2015, 10:54 AM
thanks for the data plate. I'm wondering if it's not this one that was for sale out on the cost. low mileage and all but they had a hard time selling it. it went east and surfaced again in Ohio.

This car is a long wheelbase Premier, not a Flxette.

Steve Loftin
04-22-2015, 10:56 AM
Here are a couple more pictures.

Sadly, whatever value this car had has been significantly diminished because of the replacement floor. It is now neither an endloader or a combination...what a shame, what a waste.

John ED Renstrom
04-22-2015, 11:51 AM
This car is a long wheelbase Premier, not a Flxette.

I kind of thought we were mixing bodies there that shot from the rear proves it.
one clean shot dead one from either side would have done it.

the car should have two jump seats and a divider. it would have been laied out as the combo Bill Wright brought up to Albony

Keith Snyder
04-22-2015, 01:45 PM
Photo of the builder's plate. 27743

Sent the serial plate image to Tom McPherson and, according to the information from this plate he traced the car in the Flxible Production and Delivery Record Book. This Flxette is a model FB610-64 which was a Flxible Buick (FB) combination car (610) for 1964 (64). This Flxible Flxette was body number 1388 and was sold by Flxible's Indiana-based dealer - L. R. Wangler of Warsaw, Indiana - to the Klaehn Funeral Home in Fort Wayne, Indiana. The car was delivered to Klaehn on December 23, 1963. Now you know the rest of the story...or something.

Keith Snyder
04-22-2015, 01:55 PM
I kind of thought we were mixing bodies there that shot from the rear proves it.
one clean shot dead one from either side would have done it.

the car should have two jump seats and a divider. it would have been laied out as the combo Bill Wright brought up to Albony

The serial plate on this long-wheelbase Premier indicates that it wasn't built as an ambulance. This FB61-64 survivor was a Flxible Buick (FB) combination car (61) for 1964 (64). According to available records Flxible body number18405 was sold by H. & R. Professional Car Sales of Kirkwoood, Missouri to the Fertig Funeral Home in New Haven, Missouri and delivered on March 9, 1964. So...here's Another one with it's history traced.

Scott Reinbolt
04-22-2015, 02:39 PM
Car is gone from Craigslist, so somebody got it.

Scott Reinbolt
04-22-2015, 02:41 PM
So was the New Carlisle car's first owner in Indiana or Missouri?

Tim A. Fantin
04-22-2015, 03:45 PM
So was the New Carlisle car's first owner in Indiana or Missouri?

Sounds the the car was from Missouri Scott. It was traded in to Butler Coach in Indianapolis at one point in the 80's. Thats where Carl Woerner purchased it a number of years later after Ducky Love used it for advertising. Ducky Love use to have a fleet of cars with big giant animals on the roof. They would drive people around with them. They had some very interesting cars over the years!

Scott Reinbolt
04-22-2015, 04:21 PM
Now hang on a minute, who the heck is "Ducky Love"?

Todd Merrifield
04-22-2015, 06:45 PM
Too many cars in one thread. If you read carefully, the New Carlisle car in the original Craigslist ad was a Flxette first sold in Indiana to its first owner, also in Indiana. The data plate that Ed posted is from the long wheelbase red Premier pictured, which was sold new in Missouri.

I think.

Tim A. Fantin
04-22-2015, 08:58 PM
Too many cars in one thread. If you read carefully, the New Carlisle car in the original Craigslist ad was a Flxette first sold in Indiana to its first owner, also in Indiana. The data plate that Ed posted is from the long wheelbase red Premier pictured, which was sold new in Missouri.

I think.

Sorry, I didn't read the other post! I just saw the one posted above. I knew the Ducky Love car was in Indiana atleast in the 1980's traded in to Butler Coach and resold to Ducky Love and then traded back and resold to Carl Woerner. I assumed from the above post we were talking about the same car that was for sale in Ohio and not two different cars! Steve L your right it is a shame the floor was changed. Carl had Eagle Coach put that floor in it because Ducky Love had seats in the back at one time. PCS member Sean Hennessy owned this car for years. When he moved from Ohio to California he took the car with him. When he moved back Carl ended up with the car. Thats why it has the California plates but it is a midwestern car. I talked to Carl about it last night. He said it was a nice car if you could get past the rust and the bondo. He said the frame was rusty as well. I think at $3900 it was priced as a project car and hopefully it found a good home.
As for Ducky Love it was a car rental business in Indianapolis. I think it was really called: Love Rent a Bent Car. But it was run by Orville "Ducky" Love. They had hearses and Limos that had big giant animals on the roof. People would pay to ride around in them for partys etc

John ED Renstrom
04-22-2015, 09:52 PM
with out a clear pictures of the blue and white one from all the angles it is hard to tell. if it's a flexit or premier. but I have never seen a short wheel base car with that kind of room for the gurney.

the red and white premier was one Bill Wright brought to Albany meet. I posted pictures of it's build numbers so that it could be compared. it was a combo set up for as a ambulance as everyone knew. so now which car is the one with the California tags on it

Keith Snyder
04-22-2015, 10:11 PM
with out a clear pictures of the blue and white one from all the angles it is hard to tell. if it's a flexit or premier. but I have never seen a short wheel base car with that kind of room for the gurney.

the red and white premier was one Bill Wright brought to Albany meet. I posted pictures of it's build numbers so that it could be compared. it was a combo set up for as a ambulance as everyone knew. so now which car is the one with the California tags on it

The blue and white in Dayton is and was an original wheelbase Flxette combination car. The red and white "ambulance wannabe" is a long wheelbase Premier that was also combination car when it rolled off the Loudonville assembly line in 1964. It was not built nor was it considered or classified as an ambulance by The Flxible Company. It was strictly a combination car.

John ED Renstrom
04-22-2015, 10:27 PM
yes the one of Bill former cars is will known.

but we have this blue and white one listed in a number of places with a different tags on it in all of them that was to have come from the west cost only to find out it was sold first in the mid west. the beacon goes from a pusher on it, to up right in the pictures also. it shows the same interior in it with California tags. but it to have been gutted and seats put in it with a duck on top before Carl got it. when it should have had Ohio tags. at no time does it show a vinyl top as stated. how many blue and white flexits are we talking about here. cause counting the rusty one I put up I'm seeing or hearing at least two others if the stories are true. now one pictures is from the video and the other is off one of the posted discussions sites. both of these show the same interior in the latest pictures. but different calf tags

Martyn Donaldson
04-23-2015, 12:26 AM
I spent some time with this Flxette while it was under Mike Hennessy's ownership out here in CA. I removed the vinyl top and prepped the body for the blue and white paint-job.
Tim is correct, there was a lot of rust and bondo, especially on the roof from the previous hole repair where the "chicken" was mounted. I cut the rust out of the door bottoms, rockers, quarters, etc. and welded in new metal, but Mr. Hennessy was on a tight budget and the top was a lost cause, so there's still a ton of bondo in it. It looked decent after the fresh repaint and it was a nice driving car.
The rear "floor" is basically just a 4'x8' covered in a woodgrain veneer, supported by 2x4s at the front corners and nothing but carpeted Buick floor-pans underneath (as seen in post #25, pic #2).. The Flxible floor panels, step well, etc. are long gone.

The car was also featured alongside two other Flxettes on the cover of TPC #125, the 2007 International Meet issue -

http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab281/Lesneyfan/001_zpsewhigt96.jpg (http://s872.photobucket.com/user/Lesneyfan/media/001_zpsewhigt96.jpg.html)