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Joe Melanson
01-16-2013, 02:56 AM
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/3540133688.html

Classic 1956 Pontiac Ambulance. It is complete, with motor and same strectchers as its always had. It is not running. You can text me at (760) 261-2244

Daniel Scully
01-16-2013, 11:04 AM
1956 Pontiac Ambulance - $5000 (Victorville ca)

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http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/3540133688.html


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Classic 1956 Pontiac Ambulance. It is complete, with motor and same strectchers as its always had. It is not running. You can text me at (760) 261-2244 Next door to me if anyone want,s it checked out.:)

Bill Marcy
03-05-2013, 09:01 PM
Has anybody ever checked this Pontiac out? Just a bit curious as to whether it was sold and if not, how bad is it? Mr Scully, I know you said you live one town away, did you get curious enough to look at it?

Daniel Scully
03-05-2013, 09:05 PM
Has anybody ever checked this Pontiac out? Just a bit curious as to whether it was sold and if not, how bad is it? Mr Scully, I know you said you live one town away, did you get curious enough to look at it?

Bill I never called on it to many other projects. If anyone wants me to take a look let me know.:)

Bill Marcy
03-05-2013, 09:56 PM
Bill I never called on it to many other projects. If anyone wants me to take a look let me know.:)

I certainly wouldn't want you to go out of your way for me, but if you were in the area and just happened to look at it, I would like to know more.

Daniel Scully
03-06-2013, 12:03 AM
I will see if I can get a hold of him and go from there. I need to test drive the bug that I just installed front disc brakes on.:)



http://s5.postimage.org/z5sqo6omf/DSC09456.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/mr5ynux43/full/)

James Fischer
03-06-2013, 12:55 AM
Hey Daniel,
Nice looking Beetle!!!!:thumbsup:...funny.... I am replacing brakes on a 51 split tomorrow...... she is supposed to be shot for an upcoming issue of HotVW mag next month.....

Bill Marcy
03-06-2013, 08:00 AM
I will see if I can get a hold of him and go from there. I need to test drive the bug that I just installed front disc brakes on.:)



http://s5.postimage.org/z5sqo6omf/DSC09456.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/mr5ynux43/full/)

Nice little Beetle, Dan! Thank you!

Joe Melanson
10-09-2014, 09:53 PM
This one is back again. The seller has dropped the price by $3000. Last time around, in early 2013, the price was $5000.

2K for this vehicle appears to be a great deal. It looks straight but did not run last time around. He states that there is a military history to this car "one of the original transports for the BLACK BIRD SPY PLANE RAMP IN SAC"

If true it would give the ambulance perceived "added" value.

Wish I did not have going on w/ me what is going on or that listing would have closed.

Any way here it is:

1956 Pontiac Ambulance - $2000 (Hesperia)

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4705305333.html

Very rare as there was only 178 Made and I do not believe any made it past the 1970's gas crunch and doubt the following gas crunches that followed It has a history behind it as it was one of the original transports for the BLACK BIRD SPY PLANE RAMP IN SAC. owned by a privet company contracting for the base I have owned it from 1900 and know the history of the car has a big block with less than 68000 has a rare 4 speed auto trans. included is the gurney as I also have the siren put away/ they still have gasket set for engine though I have never bought it. car will make a great show car in auto shows as you will never have any competition it is a free trophy every time (only in class one of a kind most original as depending on the show) Keep the history alive as it would make a great father and son project or a military man's show case. The spy plane has a great part of the American history as this is why I have moved if from state to state as I moved as now I am selling all my old cars I have left

Mike McDonald
10-09-2014, 10:33 PM
I am not sure that I buy all the "Black Bird Spy Plane from Sacramento" hype, but what I see from the picture.... it looks complete, very restorable and well worth $2-K. Just that (mounting type) of of Unity spotlights are VERY hard to find. I am assuming that with the (oval) front tunnels it's a Superior?

It also looks like it may have it's original BLACK (1956 Issue) "CA-BE" (State Board of Equalization) Commercial License Plates that would mean that it was a "for hire" ambulance at that time. The fact that it doesn't have any newer type-color-design of CA plate, may back up the low original mileage that he is stating?

Kurt Arends
10-09-2014, 10:59 PM
I would say that it is well worth the current asking price! Looks to be pretty complete and straight. Definitely a Superior and the tunnel lenses will be a challenge, but not impossible to find.

James Fischer
10-09-2014, 11:20 PM
Listing has been removed.

Daniel Scully
10-10-2014, 12:08 AM
Still works for me? (http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4705305333.html)

James Fischer
10-10-2014, 12:25 AM
Still works for me? (http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4705305333.html)

My error,I used the ORIGINAL listing....:confused:

Must be this continued California heat...:thumbsdown:

Daniel Scully
10-10-2014, 12:35 AM
Must be this continued California heat...

But it is a :)dry heat.

Mike McDonald
10-10-2014, 07:45 AM
I made contact with the Owner and will be looking at it in person tomorrow (Saturday) MM

Joe Melanson
10-10-2014, 12:51 PM
Have a good run. Truly wish I could go w/ you as you'll be flying right by me going up the 15. Would like to see this one in person, looks to be very interesting. Enjoy.
:weneedpics_smi:

Daniel Scully
10-10-2014, 06:56 PM
I made contact with the Owner and will be looking at it in person tomorrow (Saturday) MM

If you need a hand at all let me know, I ,am just a few minutes from there. :)

Mike McDonald
10-10-2014, 08:47 PM
If you need a hand at all let me know, I ,am just a few minutes from there. :)

OK THANKS Daniel... I will. This guy is REALLY full of hype... not sure I will be able to handle him. I think he's been watching too many "Gas Monkey-Dallas" Reruns. We'll see how it goes. MM

Daniel Scully
10-10-2014, 08:48 PM
Good luck. :eek:

Bill Marcy
10-10-2014, 09:34 PM
Good luck Mike! I like the ambulance and it would be fabulous to see it restored.

Mike McDonald
10-11-2014, 09:59 PM
DEAL DONE! FYI, I made the deal on the '56 Superior-Pontiac Ambulance and paid him for it today. The Seller said that he took it in from a private owner against a bill when he owned a tire repair shop in 1990, so it's been sitting outside for the past (24) years in the high upper desert (dry heat) community of Hesperia in San Bernardino County, not too far from where PCS Member Dan Scully lives.

A little "DNA" on the car... it was last (CA) Commercially Registered in 1961 to the multi-national giant construction company PERINI CORP., and apparently the reason it was painted school bus yellow. It still has a large PERINI CORP decal on the rear door with a (construction company type) equipment number on both sides of the car. The Seller of course claimed that "it was one of the original transports for the BLACK BIRD SPY PLANE RAMP in Sacramento" and of course PERINI could have had a (secret) military contract requiring an Ambulance, but that "tale" is yet to be verified.

The relatively low original mileage seems to check out, by the odometer and a number of (different) old service station lube stickers on the left door jamb. Although I didn't try to start it, the motor turned over freely and the oil (right to the full mark) looked like it had just been changed. In checking the most recent lube sticker, sure enough it had been changed just 263 miles earlier, but (53) years ago in August of 1961!

So if any of you have any leads on a set of Superior (OVAL) Red Lights and Retainers for the front tunnels, I will need set of two by the time we finish our restoration process. THANKS! MM

Bill Marcy
10-11-2014, 10:10 PM
Congratulations Mike! That ambulance should be a real beauty, once you are done restoring it.

Joe Melanson
10-11-2014, 10:29 PM
Outstanding, Mike!!! I'm glad that the '56 found a good home. Happy that I posted it and you grabbed it before it was (I apologize for saying) hot rodded or the other sin!! If I'm ever in the area I'd like to see it if that is ok.

Beautiful rig. Congrat!! :clap:

John ED Renstrom
10-12-2014, 12:10 AM
time for someone that has a set of the oval ones to run them thru a 3 d printer and then one can cast the lens out of plastic.

Tim Prieur
10-12-2014, 02:26 AM
Mike, well done!!
Looks like a great car.

Mike McDonald
10-12-2014, 08:07 AM
Outstanding, Mike!!! I'm glad that the '56 found a good home. Happy that I posted it and you grabbed it before it was (I apologize for saying) hot rodded or the other sin!! If I'm ever in the area I'd like to see it if that is ok.

Beautiful rig. Congrat!! :clap:

JOE: YES a special THANKS (to you) for posting it as I would have never known about it otherwise.... also to Dan Scully (who is from that area-but had never seen the car) with helping me yesterday even find it with the Seller's lack of a street address and only general directions of "turn right here off the freeway.... turn left there and it's a 1/3 of a block down the street on your left behind a motor home". As I said before, this guy was really full of "hype".... allegedly to have restored (109 "not a typo") Camaros... but yet there was nothing at his compound that even looked washed, much less restored. He said that he was going to use the proceeds of the Ambulance sale to "bring his new bride home from Kenya". Although I kept it "zipped up" yesterday, I thought as I was leaving.... if New Packards were still available, he probably would try and sell them to Eskimos!

JOE: Can you check to see if it had been (re-listed just yesterday morning) on Craig's List at a much higher price... something like $4,500 to 5,500? Although I had made an appointment with him for 1:00 PM Saturday and arrived from San Diego County at 12:30 PM (even with his lousy directions) he said that he had "just re-listed it and that he couldn't possibly just give it away for what he had previously listed it for".

ED: I have only briefly heard of the 3-D Printing Process you refer too. Is this something that can practically be done? The "Other Oval Light" that is always hard to find is the S-M (GLASS) Version originally made in Los Angeles.

Finally.... THANKS TO ALL OF YOU that have taken the time to make posts on this rig and many-many others over the past few years that really helps the "computer challenged" (illiterate) members like myself. MM

Daniel Scully
10-12-2014, 09:31 AM
This is the title of the for sale add now = 1956 Pontiac Ambulance SOLD $2000.00 - $4750 (Hesperia) (1956 Pontiac Ambulance SOLD $2000.00 - $4750 (Hesperia))

Here is the text in the add ,guy sounds like a real wacka do . Hope it all works out.

Very rare as there was only 178 Made and I do not believe any made it past the 1970's gas crunch and doubt the following gas crunches that followed It has a history behind it as it was one of the original transports for the BLACK BIRD SPY PLANE RAMP IN SAC. owned by a privet company contracting for the base I have owned it from 1900 and know the history of the car has a big block with less than 68000 has a rare 4 speed auto trans. included is the gurney as I also have the siren put away/ they still have gasket set for engine though I have never bought it. car will make a great show car in auto shows as you will never have any competition it is a free trophy every time (only in class one of a kind most original as depending on the show) Keep the history alive as it would make a great father and son project or a military man's show case. The spy plane has a great part of the American history as this is why I have moved if from state to state as I moved as now I am selling all my old cars I have left Had a Pontiac buff come by and have been told the chrome and emblems as well as other features This car has on it and in the good clean shape there is no pitting in any of the chrome parts of them makes this car worth much more as well as it is not any of this model anywhere to be found. So this is not only rare do too the amount made it is also rare as too the accessories and the fact it was constructed by Superior then finished by Pontiac so the history goes on Only real offers will be considered as I only have Saturdays as I work six days a week

Joe Melanson
10-12-2014, 09:48 AM
Mike,
I saw what Dan did.

1956 Pontiac Ambulance SOLD $2000.00 - $4750 (Hesperia)
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4705305333.html
Very rare as there was only 178 Made and I do not believe any made it past the 1970's gas crunch and doubt the following gas crunches that followed It has a history behind it as it was one of the original transports for the BLACK BIRD SPY PLANE RAMP IN SAC. owned by a privet company contracting for the base I have owned it from 1900 and know the history of the car has a big block with less than 68000 has a rare 4 speed auto trans. included is the gurney as I also have the siren put away/ they still have gasket set for engine though I have never bought it. car will make a great show car in auto shows as you will never have any competition it is a free trophy every time (only in class one of a kind most original as depending on the show) Keep the history alive as it would make a great father and son project or a military man's show case. The spy plane has a great part of the American history as this is why I have moved if from state to state as I moved as now I am selling all my old cars I have left Had a Pontiac buff come by and have been told the chrome and emblems as well as other features This car has on it and in the good clean shape there is no pitting in any of the chrome parts of them makes this car worth much more as well as it is not any of this model anywhere to be found. So this is not only rare do too the amount made it is also rare as too the accessories and the fact it was constructed by Superior then finished by Pontiac so the history goes on Only real offers will be considered as I only have Saturdays as I work six days a week
post id: 4705305333
posted: 4 days ago
updated: 6 hours ago
my notes: this was as of 6:30 AM Sunday Morning. This time there are a ton more pics - 18 to be exact.

What is this guys trip? Did he sell it to you or not? Or did he finally get some interest and now have "seller's remorse". Sounds like he took all the info that you might have stated when talking w/ him and used it to revamp the listing as well as back out of the deal. I have a lot of words for guys like him and probably would not be as nice as you might be.
It did not sell at that same (close to) price in Jan 2013.
I have a hunch his Kenya bride will have to wait quite a while longer.
He may have been able to use the info he got from you that still will not pique the interest of most folks.
If he does, or did, back out I'd at least report him - Sold $2,000 means Sold $2000. Did you give him any $.
I'm getting more ticked off as I type so I better stop.
Let me know how it goes would you please. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

John ED Renstrom
10-12-2014, 12:03 PM
one of those if you bought it you better take it now type. he is not alone in this world.

but to answer you question, making a lens using a original for the pattern is a easy enough process if you have the original. the new 3d printers can scan and makeup a exact copy of about anything. the bag now is to 360 scan your body and make a statue of yourself. I hear they get about 100 bucks to do that. I just don't know if it could be done in translucent red as of yet. but the pattern would be true right down to the logo. then there are people that can cast one from the pattern. but even if all you did was paint it red and use it to fill the hole it would be better then nothing

Mike McDonald
10-12-2014, 01:38 PM
Mike,
I saw what Dan did.

my notes: this was as of 6:30 AM Sunday Morning. This time there are a ton more pics - 18 to be exact.

What is this guys trip? Did he sell it to you or not? Or did he finally get some interest and now have "seller's remorse". Sounds like he took all the info that you might have stated when talking w/ him and used it to revamp the listing as well as back out of the deal. I have a lot of words for guys like him and probably would not be as nice as you might be.
It did not sell at that same (close to) price in Jan 2013.
I have a hunch his Kenya bride will have to wait quite a while longer.
He may have been able to use the info he got from you that still will not pique the interest of most folks.
If he does, or did, back out I'd at least report him - Sold $2,000 means Sold $2000. Did you give him any $.
I'm getting more ticked off as I type so I better stop.
Let me know how it goes would you please. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Joe: I am not sure "what his trip was" either other than he was just chocked "FULL of TALES". I got there at 1230 Saturday and a "Pontiac Guy" (as he put it) had been there about an hour earlier but wanted to "immediately flip it to an overseas buyer", but needed to get the money from him 1st. He said another "Pontiac Person" had talked to him earlier in the week who thought it was a "station wagon", wanting to part it out, buying certain pieces but not the whole car. He also claimed to be "swamped" with e-mails and calls about it for the past two weeks, but "being a good Christian man" he was going to (reluctantly) honor what he had told me the day before. I wasn't sure what to believe, but in the end I verified what I needed to (document-wise) to feel comfortable with the car and bought it... DEAL DONE!

The 44,429 mileage showing on the odometer in his pictures appears to be correct comparing it with the multiple service station lube stickers logged in on the door jamb from decades ago.

The Siren he said that he "removed from the car for safe keeping in his garage" turned out to be a 70's era Federal CP-XX (couldn't fully read the plate) electronic driver with a flat base that was probably never was on this rig, or matched the holes on the sloping roof in between the Oval Superior Tunnels.

At any rate, I am very happy with "the find" you steered me too and the overall deal. We have tackled ones much worse and they all turned out to be award winners we were proud of in the end. THANKS AGAIN! MM

Joe Melanson
10-12-2014, 09:52 PM
Excellent Mike, I'm confident that the rig (ambulance not station wagon) will be in your driveway soon (and not in parts). Hope to meet up w/ you soon. Joe
P.S. - Still listed