Welcome to the Forums

[Paul Steinberg]

Welcome to the Friends of the Professional Car Society forums. Please be patient as I learn the codes of operation and continue to configure these new forums.
Thanks Paul

[Dan Herrick]

Great to see that you have this webpage up and running Paul!:)

[Brady D Smith]

Nice to see us back in business. And nice that it is in the form of old so we don't have to learn a whole new system. That will be helpful for us old guys!! Now we have a proper vehicle to start pulling this club back together. Thanks to all of you for hanging in there.

[Ron Devies]

Great to see it up and running, we ought to invite Dean.......Nah!

[Richard Vyse]

This is outstanding to have this site up and running. Paul has done a most excellent job in his efforts as well as all those involved. Thanks.

Richard

[John Royark JR]

Its good to be back on our own site again! I love that its the same format as the "other" site. It makes it so much easier.
Great job Paul!

[Tony Karsnia]

Good morning! How great it is to see this site for us "one percenters." Thank you, Paul, for stepping up to the plate and making this possible.

Fresh winds of positive change are blowing...

[Richard Vyse]

Good morning! How great it is to see this site for us "one percenters." Thank you, Paul, for stepping up to the plate and making this possible.

Fresh winds of positive change are blowing...

Perhaps it is time to do a complete makeover and create our own PCS Society all together while on a roll? Just a thought and with Brady as the most recent PCS President, it would be a natural move to make this change by installing him into that position.

Richard

[John ED Renstrom]

lets just try to get behind our elected people and work with them. I don't know all the facts on what has gone down just know it's been a bad year.
Dean is a member of the PCS. what he did with his web site went agents the grain for most of us. but it was his decision. lets just let it go. we now thanks to a few decent people have the opportunity to do a web site that will make the PCS online community stand out. I feel most of us enjoyed the basic concept of the site we thought we had. with the ability to reach other people and bring then into the fold of preserving and restoration of the cars we love. so we will have a few growing pains here while Paul get the bugs ironed out. there a a few of us I know that have offered to help him with the site. that offer still stands from me. I trust if he needs it he will ask. this is the third pcs web site I have Benn on. the first was full of anger cheap shots and just plain crap, you logged on in a armour suite. I lasted one month there. if I need to vent I'll do it in another manner where no one else can see or hear me. needless to say I'm disappointed in my second web site. glad I only have a little money in it. the planes for this one are good and it looks to me like we will have a permanent home if we get behind it and make it work for the club. if the club tanks. then we can resurrect it if we want. mean while lets be a part of the pcs and part of the recovery of the pcs not a splinter group. my thoughts ;)

[Steve Lichtman]

I'm here, looks good so far.

[Brendan Martin]

Looks good thanks Paul

[John Dorgan]

To not allow Dean, who is a PCS life member not to utilize this site if he wishes is just another negative aspect of what was hurting the old PCS web site. We all need to read and abide by our constitution and by laws.
John Dorgan


Great to see it up and running, we ought to invite Dean.......Nah!

[W David Bessant]

I am here and glad to be here too..I simply really did not like the way the yahoo site works, and a return to some semblance of normality is welcomed.
Well done Paul for your hard work and I look forward to coming here regularly and getting my baby all decked out to show properly one day.

Now...( to mention a tetchy point that will be raised no doubt ) will you be requiring some cash soon perchance? ( just asking... )

Cheers Paul and glad to see you all again.

Dave

[John Dorgan]

Richard,
We now have "OUR" own professional Car Society. We have elected officers who deserve all of our support in their efforts. Are you suggesting that we secede from the Society and form another? The way to create change for the better is through the electoral process and making changes to our constitution and by-laws. I am on no "side", but the side of the Society's and it's constitution and by-laws. We all need to get together, and as Thumper's mother said in Bambi, "If you can't say something nice, don't say nothin' at all."
John Dorgan

Perhaps it is time to do a complete makeover and create our own PCS Society all together while on a roll? Just a thought and with Brady as the most recent PCS President, it would be a natural move to make this change by installing him into that position.

Richard

[Richard Vyse]

We now have "OUR" own professional Car Society. We have elected officers who deserve all of our support in their efforts. Are you suggesting that we secede from the Society and form another?
John Dorgan


Perhaps I did mean that. Afterall, we now have this site and the issues with the PCS will not die down anytime soon and elections are still a year and a half away. While we've come this far perhaps it may be time to consider going the next step. Not saying it should happen but just a thought.
Richard

[Charles E Snyder, II]

Hello everyone!

I'm here now.

I would also like to thenk Paul for the work to get this site going.

There was also mention of a benefactor that donated monies to get this started. If that person chooses not to reveal themselves, that is fine with me, but this would not have been possible without the original money and I want to thank that person also. If you are here and reading this, please know that we are all thankful.

[Doug Kelley]

Great job Paul on the site !! Are we going to not use the yahoo ste ?

[Paul Steinberg]

The Yahoo site will be scaled back, and only used to give updates if this site should go down.. Paul

[Bill Marcy]

Congratulations on getting the new website up and running! Great job! Onward and upward!

[Fred Goerlitz]

I agree that the sense of normalcy is quite comforting. Hopefully things will start to get back to normal. Good job Paul and thanks for all of your efforts:D

[Kent Dorsey]

Nice place ya got here Paul... many thanks...

[Dean Wilkinson]

Great site. Glad to be back amongst friends

[Greg Steffe]

Thank you Paul! Feels like coming home !

[Rocky Pollard]

Thanks Paul, you have done a much needed and appreciated service.:)I don';t post often but I do check in daily, its good to be back with all of you!

[Joe Melanson]

Paul, Thanks you for putting this board together so fast. I'm like Mr Dorgan - neutral, except in my cars I want them in Drive. I had a minor stroke 2 wks ago so all this mouse moving and clicking is good exercise. Let me know when the "site supporter" part is ready - I'll chalk it up to Phys Ther fees. :D Bottom line for me is about the vehicles. It will be good to read about them more that politics.

[Rick Duffy]

Hi Everyone!

I just want to say thank you to Paul for offering an alternate place to discuss the PCS. I am really sorry that it had to come to this, but hopefully we can move forward from this point.

I need everyone to know that as long as I am an elected board member (until August 2010) and VP until August 2009, that I will do everything to support the PCS as a whole. In so doing, I will do whatever is in the BEST interest of the Society.

I need to say that while this "new" site seems great, it is somewhat disappointing in that, I don't really feel that there was anything wrong with the "old" site.

I do know that the other site was “privately owned,” and controlled by Dean. I objected that the Society had no control and likewise gave it no financial support. In addition, I realize that there were some “loud mouths” and folks who were not afraid to bash other members publicly. I was upset that it was allowed to go on and attempts to express another point of view were met with a barrage of "cyber bullying" that I presume is one of the reasons this site was created.

I DO think that Dean and Paul did a GREAT job with the old site until recently. Since the Mt. Laurel Meet and the entire flap over the VP election, things have been in a downward spiral. I just hope that we can stay friends with those that remain supportive of the other site.

I completely agree with JD regarding his "Bambie and Thumper" comments.

I'll go one further and quote a Jew (Paul will like that:D) who founded Christianity (sort of) "Blessed are the peacemakers..."

We as a Society have a lot of work to do in order to be a thriving and successful car club. Fragmenting our membership is not going to produce the results that I believe we should strive to achieve.

To that end, I will continue to remain active on both sites, continue to work with the constitutional committee and continue to support our elected, until I'm required to step down.

I would ask that those HERE… and THERE do whatever they can to ensure the success of the entire Society by supporting Brady Smith and the Mid-Michigan gang at the upcoming International Meet this summer.

I would also ask that we do whatever we can to foster better relationships with those whose opinions we disagree with and try and work together toward a mutual compromise that supports the Society and guarantees our longevity.

I'd be delighted to discuss Society business (or anything else) with anyone who'd like to talk. I'm available during business hours at 800-474-4437 X 272 or anytime on my cell at 412 551-0020.

Onward and Upward!

Rick Duffy,
PCS Vice President

[John ED Renstrom]

thanks Rick for the phone number. were I know a lot of them are in the membership roster digging them out some times is a chore so here is back to you. you have anything you need to relay to me. my number is 605-745-6961 MST. as for the other site I have heard club money support both ways. but I'm not in a position to say either way. I do know the club logo was removed from it. that means to me it is no longer a club site. :confused:

[Michael Granoth]

Hello All:

Nice to see familiar names. Thanks to Kent Dorsey for directing my here. I'm officially a due paying PCS member. Now I just need a Pro Car.

Oh BTW Kent, I'll be down your way in early April.

[David Martin]

We're here and Happy :)

[John ED Renstrom]

[QUOTE=Michael Granoth;89]Hello All:

Nice to see familiar names. Thanks to Kent Dorsey for directing my here. I'm officially a due paying PCS member. Now I just need a Pro Car.

won't be any trouble fining one if you want one. I have a combo Steve has a ambulance Ron has a van there are Hearses all around us. no time the present to bite the bullet light and get one. welcome aboard

[Art Gregory]

Hi folks, Art in Boise here. First of all, thanks to Paul and anyone else who helped to get this site up and running.

For some reason my access to the old site stopped a few weeks ago and I had not had the chance to to get a new password established. I of course had noticed the change in the "look" and name of the site (I use www.professionalcar.org as my home page), but had NO IDEA what had actually gone down.

A few days ago, I emailed Dean and he sent me a new log-in for the old site, which I will try logging on to soon. Dean also gave me his phone number and I will call him and talk to him about his reasons for doing what he did. I have been a strong supporter of our PCS Web Site for a long time, and while I think a neutral site about "pro cars" is great, it is the people and mission of the PCS that's where my heart it is.

Paul is my friend, Dean is my friend, and Lou is my friend (btw I had to list a "primary chapter" to log onto this site...I listed Southern California as my primary Chapter). I also belong to Rick's PNW Chapter, Joe's Rocky Mountain Chapter, and Brady's Mid-Michigan Chapter and pay dues to all of them. Of course I'd like to belong to all Chapters...but I'm running out of dues money! Plus, there is only so much you can do! I already run a non-profit, work fulltime, and teach college up to 3 nights a week. I have 24 speeches & Final Exams to grade before Tuesday! If I spend much time doing posts on the PCS sites (with as long-winded as I am) I'll never get them done!

The reason I belong to Chapters I do is that the PNW and Denver Chapters are close by, so I wanted to support my fellow Pac N. West and Rocky Mountain friends Rick and Joe. Kind of like living in one of the so-called "fly-over" states...we have to stick together...because there aren't that many of us when it comes to "numbers" out West. I am the only PCS Member in the State of Idaho.

BTW, the NCAA March Madness games are in Boise tonight playing at my school - Boise State University, where I teach college and got my degrees from. Great school...great athletic dept. It would be fun to have a meet in Boise and get the University to help us to put one on!

On a serious note, I read with sadness the many comments about what's been happening to the society; the fact that this new wed site even exists is a testimony that not everyone agrees with some of the things that have been going on. There is an old saying that one should be able to disagree...without being "disagreeable." And I respectfully disagree with some of what has been happening of late, and you'll soon be hearing a bit more about that from me.

In the meantime rest assured I still support the concept of the Professional Car Society, but do not support some (not all) of the policies and behavior of some of our leadership, and some of my fellow Board Members. They may (and certainly are entitled to) feel the same way about me. I plan on making some phone calls this weekend, and if you'd like to talk to me, you are welcome to send me your number in an email to pawzup@qwest.net and I'll call you back on my dime. My phone is (208) 853-7756.

I have been away from the forums for a few weeks. It is really good to see the names I saw above my post. You are all my friends, and regardless of what happens in the future to our club, our friendship will not end.

Art Gregory
Boise, Idaho

Steve L..."French Fry" says hi and asks "would you like an apple pie with that?"

[Bill Vance]

Hey guys!!!...First off, thanks to Paul for the heads-up on what's been going on..Alot of behind-the-scenes stuff that I had no idea about went down...I gotta say that I've been checking in from time to time, and it was really depressing to see all the conflict going on....Made me just lurk in the shadows, and not contribute at all...I had been on the recieving end of some harsh critisizm when I first joined up, which kinda turned me off, but also found others in my exact position that knew what I was dealing with...Anyways, enough of my blabbering...What all have I missed?!?!?!...LOL!!!..

Thanks for the invite, Paul!!!!....

[Scott Crittenden]

Glad to see Yahoo go, can't make heads or tails out of that thing.

[Kent Dorsey]

This place looks nice, but I can't find the PEZ dispenser here...

[Edmund Kiernan]

Thanks for creating this new forum.

[Jonathan Murphy]

Thanks Paul, for directing me here.

[Dave Lisiecki]

Hi, guys; it's good to see so many familiar names here. I've been out of the loop for a long time, mostly due to being busy, and the car hobby consists mainly of lurking at a few car websites now and then. The kids are 5 and 8, so it may still be a while. Still no progress on the '60 Briarean, although I did just pick up some nice repro floor pan segments. Anyway, nice to be here.

[John Royark JR]

Still no progress on the '60 Briarean, although I did just pick up some nice repro floor pan segments. Anyway, nice to be here.

Is this the one that was in Des Moines Iowa years ago?

[Rod Holmstrom]

Hello everyone,
I just joined and already am happy I've done so as right away found some usefull info. Thanks

[Danny Ryder]

Looks like a good place to be!:cool:

[Mike McDonald]

Hopefully we can all be one big happy family again SOON! MM

[Jay Carollo]

Something that might help us all is a link we can share with others to send them here: please post so we can copy.

Thanks In Advance:)

[Paul Steinberg]

Something that might help us all is a link we can share with others to send them here: please post so we can copy.

Thanks In Advance:)


Just send your friends this address... www.professionalcarsociety.org (http://www.professionalcarsociety.org) and ask them to register with their real name. Below you will find a sample email that you can copy and paste.


Subject: New Friends of the Professional Car Website


This is to inform you that the new "Friends of the Professional Car Society" website is now on line. Please register using your real name. Please make some posts and join your other PCS friends. The site is www.professionalcarsociety.org (http://www.professionalcarsociety.org)
Please spread the word to your other Pro Cars friends..
Thanks ... Insert your name here.

[Dennis Goethe]

It has been about 4 years since I last posted to a professional car website. I'm glad to see a new forum with a friendly, welcoming, non-combative attitude. I may even post more often than every 4 years!

The re-purposing of the former website and the fallout that results will turn out to be a blessing in disguise.

Thanks to all who have made this new site possible. And Paul, thank you for taking the bull by the horns and creating this new venue.

Best wishes to all,
Dennis Goethe
http://www.seemycars.com

[Charles E Snyder, II]

Dennis,

Welcome aboard!


I think that you are correct when you mentioned the following ... ... The re-purposing of the former website and the fallout that results will turn out to be a blessing in disguise ...

Chuck